Neighborhood watch leader shoots FL teen

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fla-students-rally-to-demand-arrest-of-neighborhood-watch-leader-who-shot-unarmed-black-teen/2012/03/19/gIQAZFN7MS_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop

ORLANDO, Fla. — College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

Police have described the man who fired the shot, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, as white; his family says he is Hispanic and is not racist.

Zimmerman claims he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last month in self-defense during a confrontation in a gated community in Sanford.

Students held rallies on the campus of Florida A&M University in Tallahassee and outside the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, where prosecutors are reviewing the case to determine if charges should be filed. The students demanded Zimmerman’s arrest.

Zimmerman spotted Martin as he was patrolling his neighborhood on a rainy evening last month and called 911 to report a suspicious person. Against the advice of the 911 dispatcher, Zimmerman then followed Martin, who was walking home from a convenience store with a bag of Skittles in his pocket.

“I don’t think a man who exited his vehicle after the 911 dispatcher told him to stay inside the car can claim self-defense,” Carl McPhail, a 28-year-old Barry University law school student, said at the Sanford rally.

The 70 protesters at the Sanford rally chanted “What if it was your son?” and held posters saying, “This is not a race issue.” Many carried Skittles.

Martin’s parents and other advocates have said the shooter would have been arrested had he been black.

“You would think that Sanford is still in the 1800s claiming that this man can call self-defense for shooting an unarmed boy,” restaurant owner Linda Tillman said.

The case has garnered national attention and civil rights activist Al Sharpton and radio host Michael Baisden planned to lead another rally Thursday in Sanford.

U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown, D-Fla., along with members of the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, have asked that the U.S. Department of Justice to review the case, and White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday during a briefing that officials there were aware of what happened.

“Our thoughts and prayers go out to Trayvon Martin’s family,” Carney said. “But obviously we’re not going to wade into a local law enforcement matter.”

Prosecutors may not be able to charge Zimmerman because of changes to state law in 2005. Under the old law, people could use deadly force in self-defense only if they had tried to run away or otherwise avoid the danger.

Under the new law, there is no duty to retreat and it gives a Floridian the right “to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force,” if he feels threatened.

Prosecutors can have a hard time making a case if there is no one else around to contradict a person who claims self-defense, said David Hill, a criminal defense attorney in Orlando. So far, Sanford police have said there is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman’s claims.

“If there is nobody around and you pull a gun, you just say, ‘Hey, I reasonably believed I was under imminent attack. Hey, sorry. Too bad. But you can’t prosecute me,’” Hill said, somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

Gun control advocates said the case is emblematic of permissive gun laws in Florida, which was among the first states to allow residents to carry concealed weapons. Florida was the first state to pass a “Stand Your Ground” law, which has been dubbed a “Shoot First” law by gun control advocates.

Currently, about half of all U.S. states have similar laws, said Brian Malte, legislative director of the Brady Campaign, which describes itself as the nation’s largest organization dedicated to the prevention of gun violence.

“It’s coming to dangerous fruition,” Malte said. “There are more states like Florida.”

The “Stand Your Ground” law’s legislative sponsor, Florida Rep. Dennis Baxley, said it wasn’t written to give people the power to pursue and confront others.

“That’s not what this legislation does,” said Baxley, a Republican. “Unfortunately, every time there is an unfortunate incident involving a firearm, they think it’s about this law, and it’s not.”

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Another Skittles related fatality…tragic.

Is this the story that was blowing up in the national news, with the picture of kid as a football player?

Haven’t really looked into it, but seems controversial.

Yea it’s been all over the news.

The winner writes the history books.

With only his side of the story it’s impossible to say what really happened but deadly force seems excessive in this. Cops have to be damn sure they are threatened by the criminal or that he has a gun before use of guns, this guy can just find people in the middle of the night and shoot them down :ponder

I don’t even think this guy was a cop though, or was he? I was under the impression he was just a neighborhood watch leader.

And like you said, who knows what really happened. Maybe the kid started shit with him. Maybe the guy over reacted. Hard to say when you’ll never hear the other side of the story.

No matter who was at fault I think we can all agree that Trayvon is a stupid name.

Nah he wasn’t a cop. I just mentioned it as usually use of deadly force shouldn’t leave any questions as to why it was used and where the threat was. This guy likely shouldnt have used it but will get away on a technicality.

Anyway, obligatory

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The worst part about this story is the 911 operator to the dude to NOT follow the kid. He ignored them and in my opinion is ultimately at fault for anything that happened afterwards.

no worse than Shaniqua

Technically he was only told he didn’t “need” to follow him, basically the only answer that couldn’t come back to hurt the PD. Not nearly enough is known by the general public but at this point there is a TON of media attention on this. So much in fact that Obama has weighed in on it and The Black Panthers have put a $10,000 bounty on the guys head to detain him.

Not nearly enough information is known?? What else are you looking for? This happened almost a month ago.

How bout a description of the confrontation…this says a kid was shot for some reason but doesn’t say what happened.

The problem is there’s two sides to every story and one of the sides is dead.

			<b>Self appointed Neighborhood watch leader</b>:Idiots

The kid was walking down the street with some junk food minding his own fucking business when the numbnut (self appointed neighborhood watch leader, who was expelled from college in the criminal justice program, who has called 911 for non-emergencies 46 times for everything to open garage doors to stray dogs) decided to harass him and treat him like criminal.

That’s the story we KNOW.

So essentially Rod Farva shot an African American teen in Florida.

sounds like it.

do we know if the kid’s dead or not?

what surprises me is that some KKK member or white supremist hasnt blown a hole in Al Sharpton yet.

I listened to the tape of the Zimmerman guy calling 911. Sounded like he was determined to create a conflict IMO. Either which way there is no reason for a citizen to pursue another citizen even if the person is breaking a law. Thats why we have a police force, call it in and don’t take action unless your life or somebody elses’ is in clear and present danger. Just my .02 though and I think the shooter should get life, he created the situation that led to the kid being shot and makes all firearms owners look like idiots in the media.