this was mentioned earlier prolly, but what about a new mk5 R32? awd, dsg, navi, handles well and some good giddy up.
i manage to get better mpg using it in tip vs just “drive”, so i just use that now all the time
jay if your interested in a new CTS give me a call, maybe i can get you a hook up
okay…generally I send a 6 emails to dealerships offering 750 below invoice…and 1 will usually bite to move product.
Infiniti M45x… AWD, lots of power to spare, proven drivetrain, handles amazing, autostick/auto, loaded to the hilt, super fun to drive, decent gas mileage if you keep your right foot out of it. Can be found used well within your price range :nod
PADDDDLEEEEE SHIFFTERR !!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
autostick…push up to upshift, pull back to down… All around fun luxury car with a bit of performance, great winter traction, and ~20mph highway…
I suppose joystick is fine too… just no clutch… though i did prefer paddles, i need to consider other options. EVO is out of running.
Looking at Boxers suggestion now.
no r32? :sad
If I lived a noraml Cleever lifestyle, its perfect. It looks like a blast and would be to drive… but not as a daily for me. Too small, not my style.
fair enough. :nod maybe a new b7 s4?
thats not my language… i had to google the vw.
newest audi s4.
hahaha “joystick”, nice one man. i guess i know what to call that in my car now. heh :lol
so a 911 is possibly back in the game now??? 996 C4S with Tip. Turbo widebody, excellent AWD and power, Porsche fit n finish, little cool +/- buttons on the wheel ;D
MK5 R32…go drive one, you’ll see what i mean 
I’m thinking that when a guy is considering a Cadillac/Infiniti/Porsche that a two door VW hatchback isn’t gonna cut it.
You could step it up and suggest an A3? :tong
if he shot down an rs4 then what makes you think he’ll go for an a3?
No I meant that kid who suggested an R32 could’ve stepped it up.
If I had his funds and options I wouldn’t look at an R32 either, even as much as I love VW.