NitrousOxide

looking for a tech gurus to explain the consequences of using NOS…maybe the ifs and whys it may be harmful to low milage or high milage cars…explain difference between wet and dry kit…benefits to having either/or…you get the idea…

I don’t know much but I do know that its not for amateurs

kyle you got a heavy foot…you’ll blow yourself to pieces!

juice is fine for anyone who isn’t just getting it to be cool.

if you want to feel the benefits of nitrous, and use it wisely, you won’t have any problems.

  1. Hook it up correctly.
  2. make sure there is adequate fuel
  3. start with a small shot and move up

For your little V6, I would just do a dry shot, 75-100, no reason to get crazy with a wet kit or anything.

if your really intrested stop by the shop and i’ll impart my knoledge to you. stop by some time tomorow between 11 and 7pm

number one cause of engines blowing up when using nitrous is greedy users. You use the 100 shot for awhile, then think its a good idea to move up to 125, then 150 then boom.

Talk to JnJ he’ll answer any questions you got about nitrous.

well one of ur questions i can anser…
Wet Kit - sprays fuel and N20,
Dry Kit - sprays just N20, b4 ur MAF (at least in my sit.) and ur car adjusts

It can be safe if setup properly… but theres alot to it, if u just buy a generic kit and slap it on ur gonna break something

Onoes, double the intake double the welds. :O!

Also given the design of your intake a dry setup will be much easier to use/install. Might want to see if anyone on any forums for that car is using either setup. Also make sure the fuel system is up to par and able to handle it.

it’s all about how you set it up my friend :wink:

Wet Nitrous Kit - mix nitrous & fuel and spray through a fogger nozzle. Can either be single nozzle, two, or one per cylinder (direct port)

Dry Nitrous Kit - only inject nitrous through a fan spray or fogger nozzle. Some dry kits use manipulation of the vehicles fuel pressure regulator to injects the rail fuel pressure and deliver more fuel via stock injectors. More pressure = more fuel. Some newer vehicle like 4.6 liter Mustang and Gen III GM V8s allow you to inject nitrous before the vehicles mass air flow sensor and the vehicle computer interprets and adds the extra fuel

Dry kits are cheaper and easier to install. I would usually recommend then for people looks for a decent bang 4 the buck and someone looking to stay under 100-125 hp. Wet kits are a bit harder to install, however they can be fine tuned more than a dry kit can. Both are great.

Low mileage and high mileage isn’t so much a factor as the condition of the vehicles engine. The main thing about nitrous is you can’t get greedy and surpass the mechanical limits of your engine. Nitrous does stress parts just like a turbo or any other power modification would. As long as the nitrous is tuned right and running at a safe and proper A/F you will not have a problem as long as you are reasonable. If you have any other questions please give me a call or email

nitrous is my best friend

ok, so go hook a 250shot up to your car:P

im intent was to get more FAQs in this tech section…but now im debating spraying a 75 shot :stuck_out_tongue:

can i set it up so i dont need to physically :tspry: …rather…i can have it spray automatically at a certain RPM, or when a percentage of throttle is applied??

ZEX at WOT

Every nitrous system either has a mechanical or electric WOT switch. You can also add to that in series something like an MSD digital window switch which can turn the nitrous on and off at programmed RPM

im definitly into that…will make it more fun…easier…and ill get better gas milage when i try to stay out of that range
:tup: thanks guys

or u can just turn it off so when ur cruising the nitrous wont activate…eitehr way ur cars sock fuel system can run a 75-100 shit relatively safe if installed properly

Taken from another forum when I was searching for my nitrous questions…there is some good info here:

Here are some Q’s and A’s for you. Enjoy!

Q: Will Nitrous affect engine reliability?
A: The key is choosing the correct H.P. for a given application. A kit that uses the correct factory calibration does not usually cause increased wear. As the energy released in the cylinder increases so do the loads on the various components that must handle them. If the load increases exceed the ability of the components to handle them, added wear takes place. Nitrous kits are designed for use on demand and only at wide open throttle. Nitrous can be extremely advantageous in that it is only used when you want it, not all the time. Most Nitrous kits are designed for maximum power with reliability for a given application.

Q: Can I simply bolt a nitrous kit onto my stock engine?
A: Yes. Most manufactures systems for virtually any stock engine application. The key is to choose the correct kit for a given application; i.e., 4 cyl. engines normally allow an extra 40-60 HP, 6 cyl. engines usually work great between 75-100 extra HP, small block V8’s (302/350/400cid) can typically accept up to 140 extra HP, and big block V8’s (427-454) might accept from 125-200 extra HP. These suggested ranges provide maximum reliability from most stock engines using cast pistons and cast crank with few or no engine modifications.

Q: What are some of the general rules for even higher HP gains?
A: Generally, forged aluminum pistons are one of best modifications you can make. Retard ignition timing by 4-8 degrees (1 to 1-1/2 degrees timing retard per 50 HP gain). In many cases a higher flowing fuel pump may be necessary. Higher octane (100+) racing type fuel may be required as well as spark plugs 1 to 2 heat ranges colder than normal with gaps closed to .025"-.030". For gains over 250 HP, other important modifications could be necessary in addition to those mentioned above. These special modifications may include a forged crankshaft, a high quality race type connecting rods, a high output fuel pump dedicated to feeding the additional fuel demands of the nitrous system, and a racing fuel with high specific gravity and an octane rating of 110 or more.

Q: How does nitrous work?
A: Nitrous oxide is made up of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process in an engine, at about 572 degrees F, nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen. This extra oxygen creates additional power by allowing more fuel to be burned. Nitrogen acts to buffer, or dampen the increased cylinder pressures helping to control the combustion process. Nitrous also has a tremendous “intercooling” effect by reducing intake charge temperatures by 60 to 75 degrees F.

Q: How much performance improvement can I expect with a nitrous system?
A: For many applications an improvement from .5 to 3 full seconds and 5 to 15 MPH in the quarter mile can be expected. Factors such as engine size, tires, jetting, gearing, etc. will affect the final results.

Q: How long will the bottle last?
A: This largely depends on the type of nitrous kit and jetting used. For example, a 125 HP Power Shot kit with a standard 10 lb. capacity bottle will usually offer up to 7 to 10 full quarter-mile passes. For power levels of 250 HP, 3 to 5 full quarter-mile passes may be expected. If nitrous is only used in 2nd and 3rd gears, the number of runs will be more.

Q: How long can I hold the nitrous button down?
A: It is possible to hold the button down until the bottle is empty. However 15 continuous seconds at a time, or less, is recommended.

Q: When is the best time to use nitrous?
A: At wide open throttle only (unless a progressive controller is used). Due to the tremendous amount of increased torque, you will generally find best results, traction permitting, at early activation. Nitrous can be safely applied above 3,000 RPM under full throttle conditions.

Q: Is nitrous oxide flammable?
A: No. Nitrous Oxide by itself is non-flammable. However, the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to take place more rapidly.

Q: Will nitrous oxide cause detonation?
A: Not directly. Detonation is the result of too little fuel present during combustion (lean) or too low of an octane of fuel. Too much ignition advance also causes detonation. In general, most kits engineered for stock type engines will work well with premium type fuels and minimal decreases of ignition timing. In racing application where higher compression ratios are used, resulting in higher cylinder pressures, a higher fuel octane must be used as well as more ignition retard.

Q: Is there any performance increase in using medical grade nitrous oxide?
A: None! Most sell only the automotive grade, called Ny-trous Plus. Ny-trous Plus contains a minimal amount of sulfur dioxide (100 ppm) as a deterrent to substance abuse. The additive does not affect performance.

Q: Is it a good idea to use an aftermarket computer program in conjunction with an ntrous System?
A: Only if the program has been designed specifically for use with nitrous oxide. Most aftermarket programs use more aggressive timing advance curves to create more power. This can lead to possible detonation. You may wish to check with the manufacturer of the program before using it.

Q: Does nitrous oxide raise cylinder pressure and temperatures?
A: Yes. Due to the ability to burn more fuel, this is exactly why nitrous makes so much power.

Q: Are there any benefits to chilling the nitrous bottle?
A: No. Chilling the bottle lowers the pressure dramatically and will also lower the flow rate of the nitrous causing a fuel rich condition and reducing power. On cold evenings you might run on the rich side. For optimal running conditions, keep bottle pressure at approximately 900-1050 psi.

Q: Are there benefits to using nitrous with turbo or super-charger applications?
A: Absolutely! In turbo applications, turbo lag is completely eliminated with the addition of a nitrous system. In addition, both turbo and superchargers compress the incoming air, thus heating it. With the injection of nitrous, a tremendous intercooling effect reduces intake charge temperatures by 75 degrees or more. Boost is usually increased as well, adding to even more power.

Q: What affect does nitrous have on an engine with considerable miles on it?
A: This depends largely on the actual condition of the engine components. Any performance modification to an engine that is worn out or poorly tuned will have detrimental effects. However, an engine in good condition, with good ring and head gasket sealing, should be able to use nitrous without any abnormal wear.

Q: Will the use of nitrous oxide affect the catalytic converter?
A: No. The increase in oxygen present in the exhaust may actually increase the efficiency of the converter. Since the use of nitrous is normally limited to 10-20 seconds of continuous use, there usually are no appreciable effects. Temperatures are typically well within acceptable standards.

Q: Can high compression engines utilize nitrous oxide?
A: Absolutely. High or low compression ratios can work quite suitably with nitrous oxide provided the proper balance of nitrous and fuel enrichment is maintained. Nitrous kits are used in applications from relatively low compression stock type motors to Pro-Modifieds, which often exceed 15 to 1. Generally, the higher the compression ratio, the more ignition retard, as well as higher octane fuel, is required.

Q: Can service station fuel be used for street/strip nitrous oxide applications?
A: Yes. Use of a premium type leaded or unleaded fuel of 92, or greater, octane is recommended for most applications. Many nitrous systems are designed for use with service station pump gas. However, when higher compression or higher horsepower levels are used, a racing fuel of 100 octane, or more, must be used.

Q: What type of cam is best suited for use with nitrous oxide?
A: Generally, cams that have less exhaust overlap and more exhaust duration. However, it is best to choose a cam tailored to normal use (when nitrous is not activated) since 99% of most vehicle operations is not at full throttle. There are special cam grinds available for nitrous competition which have more aggressive exhaust profile ramping, etc. Since cam selection depends largely on vehicle weight, gearing, etc., it is best to stick to cam manufacturers’ recommendations for your particular goal.

Q: Should I modify my fuel system to use nitrous oxide?
A: Most stock fuel pumps will work adequately for smaller nitrous applications. It is important to check to see if your pump can flow enough fuel to your existing fuel system (whether carburetor or fuel injected), as well as being able to supply the additional fuel required by the nitrous kit under full throttle conditions. It may be a good idea to dedicate a separate fuel pump to the nitrous kit.

do it…but first you owe me an NA Z vs. NA Z run…

but i think i have to call bs…i remember back in the day you talking about an LS1 swap, that didnt happen…

i was talking about being interested in an LS1 swap.

ill run you na vs na…but does that mean u have to do a quick swap again? :stuck_out_tongue: