A good article for the few of us not drinking the kool-aid:
"There are those who’ve been around the mobile industry awhile longer than Apple; there is a joke that “to see what will be new in the next iPhone, just pull out a 3-year-old Nokia.”
Someone was actually surprised the other day when I told them my phone had a forward facing camera… even more surprised when I told them my older phone had the same thing. He was under the impression Apple putting a 2nd camera into the iPhone was an industry first, lol.
Also, looks like Symbian is definitely going to be taking a back seat to MeeGo:
“The Nokia N8 will be the last of the flagship N-series smartphones to use Symbian, Nokia told CNET Australia, and confirmed the move in a Reuters interview. “Going forward, N-series devices will be based on MeeGo,” a Nokia spokesman said, though it will continue to offer Symbian lower down the product line.”
LOL, pull out a 3 yr old Nokia, isn’t that the truth though? they just never worked to push them in the domestic market with locked hardware by carriers. aftermarket phones are standard in europe and other markets where we’re contract driven pussies here after free phones. i stuck with nokia b/c you can fix them more than the typical disposable phones with ebay parts. just look at old 9xxx series nokia’s and nokia communicators from the early '00s and even into the '90’s.
Meh, that article was a bit fan boyish.
I mean it comes down to this:
5 megapixel camera with LED flash? Apple is really not trying its best, when even Nokia’s cheaper N8 gives us 12 megapixels and Xenon flash.
So you’re saying you’d rather have the N8 camera than my crappy 6MP D70?
And hey, while we’re generalizing, all 1080P HDTVs run the same resolution, must all look the same right?
I think the point that many Apple consumers are ignorant to the fact that many of the features aren’t first to the market is exactly why it does so well. It makes a technology (smartphones) that used to be relatively intimidating, so easy, your grandmother can pick it up. It doesn’t require weird tinkering. It doesn’t try to do everything, or do it first.
I don’t know why people would upgrade from a 3GS to a 4 unless they had money to burn or a broken phone, but for someone shopping phones right now, there is a huge portion of the market that is going to find it appealing. Apple is here to sell phones, music and apps… not appeal to every techno geek out there. It is like automatic transmissions, there is a reason they sell them in the US.
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Points taken. And now that you’ve joined the ranks of the “technologically ignorant & intimidated” by buying an iPhone you can unsubscribe from this thread 
lol, but on the comparison between DSLR cameras and phones, here is an interesting opinion by Nokia’s VP: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE63J15F20100420?type=marketsNews
He’s wrong about DSLRs IMO, but maybe right about point-n-shoot cameras.
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My point about cameras was that if you’re just comparing the numbers (12MP must be better than 5MP) , you’re doing it wrong.
Yeah I agree.
What lens is on the iPhone anyway? Who makes it? Or is it plastic? My N900 is a Carl Zeiss
i’m halfway tempted to buy an iphone… so much “simpler” for the dumb to operate additional apps. Symbian typically requires some research and premeditated actions before doing anything. I’ll watch the droid front for a bit but another Nokia is probably what I’ll get. definitely won’t be branded this time around, boy was that a stupid decision.
For anyone besides me who’s still sticking with Nokia, we’re starting to see specs out there for the N9 that are going to crush my N900… and anything else, lol.
Nokia World is next week so we’ll see if anything is said. A MeeGo powered, all metal, flagship phone (finally) would be awesome:
New technical specifications of the N9 start appearing here and there, and they are as follows:
Screen Resolution: 1280 * 720
Screen Color Depth: 24 bit
Screen Size: 4.0 inch
Display Technology: OLED (RGB)
Thickness: 14.2 mm
Weight: 150
Input Method: Touch Screen and slide-out QWERTY keyboard
Data Bearers: IEEE 802.11b/g/n WLAN, HSPA +, WCDMA, EGPRS, EDGE
CPU Type: ARM Cortex-A8
CPU Clock Rate: 1 GHzGraphics Processor: SGX540
Flash Technology: Adobe Flash 10.1
Camera Resolution: 12 MPix (4000 * 3000)
CMOS sensor: 1/1.7 inch
Camera focal length: 28 mm
Video Recording Resolution: 1280 * 720 (HD 720p)
Video Recording Frame Rate: 30 fps
Mass Storage Memory: 64 GB
NAND Memory: 1 GB
SDRAM Memory: 512 MB SDRAM
Maximum Memory Card Size: 32 GB
Connectivity: Bluetooth 3.0, HDMI mini connector C, Micro-USB (OTG) …If they are true, then the N9 is going to be a REALLY powerful device.
Screen resolution of 1280x720 would be THE FIRST “HD ready 720p” display in a smartphone letting one view HD content WITHOUT ANY RESCALLING.
1 GHz Cortex-A8 should also be just fine (it’s a 40% increase compared to N900) and should be easily overclockable to some 1,3 - 1,4 GHz.
512 MB SDRAM means that swapping won’t start until you really run A LOT of applications simultaneously and should have a huge positive impact on performance and overall experience.
And of course 12 Megapixel camera + 720 p video recording are also great features.
how much is that monster going to be?
500+ easy.
No N9 announcement yet, but the slider phone that’s out there (that’s been mistakenly called the N9) has been announced as the E7:
Close up shots: http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia-e7-close-up-shots/#3359854
All of the phones they’ve announced look real good - all metal, AMOLED screens, HDMI connections, etc. But nothing world-stopping yet…
they’re holding back… they’ve got something big in the works I’m sure. bet in another 6 months, they’ll have HDTV receivers in unbranded devices.
I just wish I had at&t signal where my new shop is going. called AT&T just now, 11 months left on my unlimited data line, and 2 months on wife’s voice/sms line, they waived my contract on my line, thanked me for my business since '00 and told me to wait 2 months and I’d be off scott free on hers, but only ~$50 if I ported to Verizon tomorrow. helps to be nice on the phone with the person on the other end of the line. Already been in touch with Jeff about a 'droid device and one for the wife.
Agreed. Nokia is calling the E7 the successor to my E90… but the resolution is less that my E90, and that’s causing people to bitch up a storm. What they don’t understand is that other, better phones are still in the works. Hell, they’ve shaken up the boardroom quite well this week… they’ll need something to show for it!
Well no MeeGo announcement 
Looks like I’m sticking with my N900 for the foreseeable future;
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For anyone still paying attention… Nokia has partnered with Microsoft. No more Symbian. MeeGo will stay as an “experiment.”
Huge win for Microsoft though.
I agree…basically 98% of the world will be forced into Windows Phone 7 from my understanding. Never used symbian, but Windows 7 is the boring and annoying smartphone cousin. It’s decent but not overly impressive.
1 MeeGo device to be released this year… I might buy it. The last of the open-source Nokias 
Windows phone can’t multitask… can’t even cut & paste. And IE blows. There is no way Windows can even come close the the Maemo software on my N900 right now, let alone give me the same desktop-level experience on a phone.
The only hope is that Nokia worked into the deal that they have a lot of say in the Windows software, so I’d hope they could fix it and make it worth while.
Copy and Paste shouldn’t really be a deal breaker…It’s nice to have but you aren’t really losing too much without it. Multitasking is very important IMO, I use it all the time on Android. The browser I’ve see on some phone will not display the keyboard in IE while in landscape mode. The app store is awful. Basically it’s a phone perfect for your grandpa who just wants his yahoo or aol mail on the phone.
iOS made some pretty good strides resolving some of those same issues for the iFags so hopefully WP7 does the same. It’s on my “has potential, but not quite done yet” list. Would be cool if it is cause I love Nokia RF and build quality.