Pittspeed Fitness & Nutrition thread update:

thanx, your kinda right. i always have done shoulders seated, standing presses are good, but you can push more weight sitting. i use an adj. bench, 1 click from straight up, so my back doesnt arch. i come down to parallel…you should never break parellel when doing shoulders, it puts more stress on your rotator cuff then anything when you come all the way down. i go slow, and control the weight, and let the bar touch my nose. keeping the bench like i do works the shoulders great, try it. you’'ll like it.

a bodybuilder named greg kovacs does 500lb. free weight behind the neck presses…umm yeah, he is not natural

…and i use a smith machine, it keeps the bar from floating forward.