That is where I got the idea from. I never knew about that pricing though, thats interesting.
Waiver means jack, if someone is seriously hurt your entire operation will be dissected under a microscope, I 100% guarantee it! Yes, you can sue if you dropped 350lb on your chest and cracked a rib. Yes, you can sue if the coffee is too hot. Yes, you can sue if the food makes you fat. I am sorry, this is the world we live in.
He is telling you how its done on military bases across the US. That’s not just his perception of my idea.
and you’ll lose if you try. a liability waiver covers alot, but apparently you know everything… thats why warnings are inplace and certain places require things before you do something. when you sign up for the gym, you sign a release form, knowing you can injure yourself… now if something shall break and its a defect in a machine or something liek that, yes, you can, same goes for a car shop. if you slip and fall because you spilled oil and neglected to clean it, you cant do anything, but if a car falls off, or a lift collapses with you under it, then the establishment becomes liable, unless you as a company werent allowing just anyone to use the lifts and place the vehicles on their own. thats where what i said about qualified people being lift/machine operators.
seems like a great idea, but I think there is way too much overhead for it to be successful. Lift/tools/trained employees/insurance would cost a ton.
:+1
yeah it would be very high overhead. would be looking at i’d atleast 5,000 per month in operation costs(rent, insurance, power)
under 300… LOL
yea
ur gonna get that kinda garage access similar to the pic for under 300 bucks
GTFO
I’d say it may even be higher then that if you’d want to turn a profit.
My dad’s friend was talking to me about this same topic last week. He was telling me back when they were growing up you could rent a lift at different garages to work on your car. Then the wonderful lets sue people for shit’s and giggles faze came along and ruined it. Looks good on paper though
i guess i put 3-400 becuase thats the most i could ever hope to come up with for something thats not going to return a profit
This thread died pretty quick… but thanks for the input people. Helped my math quite a bit.
The core issue with that is, if you have people high enough to charge a profit, a regular Joe won’t be able to afford it. The people that can afford it however, can afford to equip their own garages in the similar fashion without having to pay membership fees either.
Here is how I set it up:
I first looked at the cost of typical maintenance from a dealership charging $75 per hour plus parts. Think oil change, new brakes, ignition, simple things that cost quite a bit but anyone could do themselves with a wrench… Then take into account a breakdown and a tow it adds up pretty quick a labor plus towing would come up to a few hundred dollars.
Change gears from a daily driver and start thinking of a project car like my sol or something similar. Lots of students have them, we are all at the auto crosses… I rented a 3 bay garage this winter for $300 a month and had a list of people that wanted the two other bays.
So now we started stocking it with extension cords and tools for a few hundred more dollars, a heater for $250 more, towing to and from shops that do what we cant in ours (fabrication, tuning, painting). Add in the cost of renting a mig and a tig…
all that and we still don’t have a lift.
While Jesse maintains that college students are poor, that simply isn’t the case. In Rochester, all the car guys out on a Friday night are students or former students now working for the universities who still live in apartments but now have plenty of more cash.
My plan targeted Philadelphia PA due to the large number of University’s, technical schools, and the booming car scene… yet they still have the winters which cause the off season that my plan required.
anyway, it would be expensive, but I would buy a membership because it would save me a ton of money.
i know it sounds a little extreme but if they had metal detectors and seach bags and shit when people came in a left … that would be key because everyone knows now adays you cant trust anyone…God knows i cant
The rent price + your own labor must be a better deal at the end of the month then just paying a shop labor rate to fix something for you, especially when they know what they are doing.
Normally you only pay when stuff breaks (if you don’t have your own garage) having a member ship fee is a fixed cost to a member that he must justify by fixing. If nothing breaks which is something we all hope for, it starts looking like a bad deal.
I’m not against the idea at all, just playing devils advocate.
Commercial garage per sqft is more expensive than apartment per sqft. You cant rent to people on a per-day basis, it wont make money. If you rent to them monthly, it’ll be like hitting them for another rent bill in addition to their apartment.
Also, no one is going to rent that much money per month to a college student when they are already paying an apartment + other.
Love the idea. Just wont pay the bills and wont be sustainable.
Your both right with the pro’s and cons, it must be a monthly membership fee as daily rate wont work, and if you dont need to do any work on your car you are wasting money.
its all in my report. :tong