Seneca's at it again.....

i shouldn’t have even opened this fucking thread.

[quote=“dawn,post:41,topic:27909"”]

i shouldn’t have even opened this fucking thread.

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I’m in about the same place right now.

Is it me or does every single convo end up about black people somehow?? This started out as native americans and the BAM african americans

:gotme:

[quote=“SI01,post:42,topic:27909"”]

I’m in about the same place right now.

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Word, oddly enough I ended up driving through there the day before yesterday for the first time, on a random southtowns drive. But just wow.

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Is it me or does every single convo end up about black people somehow?? This started out as native americans and the BAM african americans

:gotme:

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you can thank andy b for that lil gem not really about blacks though more pretending he knowns more than the rest of us but he was wrong so he got corrected were still almost on topic

Blacks just like attention.

Think about it. Donks, Thangs, Fronts…

all for attention.

lol

[quote=“vq30de,post:46,topic:27909"”]

Blacks just like attention.

Think about it. Donks, Thangs, Fronts…

all for attention.

lol

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You forgot our oversized afros;)

it reminds me of how blacks still want reparations for slavery

[quote=“RedDawg,post:48,topic:27909"”]

it reminds me of how blacks still want reparations for slavery

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LOL

while they were picking cotton, my ancestors were picking olives in Italy. I had no part of that shit…

[quote=“vq30de,post:49,topic:27909"”]

LOL

while they were picking cotton, my ancestors were picking olives in Italy. I had no part of that shit…

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i should really look into my ancestory, i have no idea when the 1st generation of my family came over.

http://www.buffalonews.com/101/story/58116.html

CATTARAUGUS INDIAN RESERVATION — The Seneca Nation of Indians has no intention of ever collecting cigarette taxes for the state, and its leader raised the ante Thursday in the high stakes poker game by saying the tribe could erect its own toll booth along the section of Thruway on Seneca territory.

maybe there will be some action

Hmmm interesting.

The Thruway issue, said Seneca counsel Robert Porter, dates back to 1993 when the Senecas filed suit as part of a legal fight that also included land claims on Grand Island and other islands in the Niagara River. The Senecas lost that lawsuit.

So yeah, try putting up a toll after the courts already ruled you have no rights there. Lots of empty threats being made, nothing more.

“The term ‘childish’ comes to mind,” James Calvin, executive director of the trade group, said of the Senecas’ Thruway claim. “The state bestowed upon the Seneca Nation an exclusive franchise to mint money with its casinos, and all they do is complain about how the state is treating them.”

:tup: to this guy.

“The issue before us is a land issue. It’s totally separate from taxes,” John said.

Right. :roll2:

The Senecas’ tribal courts also need to examine easements for numerous other roads and utility rights of way running through reservation lands to make sure they are valid, John said.

That’s smart.

[quote=“vq30de,post:49,topic:27909"”]

LOL

while they were picking cotton, my ancestors were picking olives in Italy. I had no part of that shit…

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I’m German and my ancestors at one point were being picked on by Jews… I’m not asking for reperations either.

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I’m German and my ancestors at one point were being picked on by Jews… I’m not asking for reperations either.

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This may come as a surprise to you but i think your ancestors took their revenge on the jews i believe your plight for reperations was written off long ago…lol

While a lot of good points are being made here we must rememeber one thing based on what our governments modern values are:

Native Americans were here first and regardless of any excuse we can make, we did rape them of thier land and call all of North America ours.

In the end its not crazy to say they are entitled to the benefit of the doubt when it comes to regulation of taxes, land ect. being that if we did not come in and take over thier land that they would not be worrying about any of this.

The key point here is based on our governments modern values.

The same applies to the slavery thing… while its clear some people seek to take advantage of “reperations,” we as a white majority were wrong based on modern values… and nothing will ever repay what has been done.

Idk thats just throwing in a different point of view although I dont even know where my stance is on all of this

[quote=“MOBOOST4U,post:57,topic:27909"”]

While a lot of good points are being made here we must rememeber one thing based on what our governments modern values are:

Native Americans were here first and regardless of any excuse we can make, we did rape them of thier land and call all of North America ours.

In the end its not crazy to say they are entitled to the benefit of the doubt when it comes to regulation of taxes, land ect. being that if we did not come in and take over thier land that they would not be worrying about any of this.

The key point here is based on our governments modern values.

The same applies to the slavery thing… while its clear some people seek to take advantage of “reperations,” we as a white majority were wrong based on modern values… and nothing will ever repay what has been done.

Idk thats just throwing in a different point of view although I dont even know where my stance is on all of this

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i understand this point of view but can you name any other civilization in history that when conquered was allowed to keep a piece of land to continue their culture and way of life?

Regarding the reparations things, I just had a weird thought: America>>>>>Africa. Any idiot descendent of slaves that wants reparations should instead pay homage to their ancestors for enduring a hell that now has them living in the greatest country on Earth rather than rotting away in a 3rd world disease infested shit hole.

Actually, I’m kinda thinking that that might apply to Native Americans too. Yeah, they got conquered. Thanks to that they are now living in the greatest, most advanced country on Earth. Yet when they’re asked to abide by the treaties that their ancestors agreed to with our ancestors, they get all pissy.

Hmm. I’m just kinda typing this as I think it through. So if you take for granted that living in a house with electricity and hot water and having access to modern medicine is better than living in a teepee and going to see a medicine man, they’re really just greedy ungrateful bastards.

I dunno. Sucks that they got conquered, or does it?

[quote=“Afrank45,post:56,topic:27909"”]

This may come as a surprise to you but i think your ancestors took their revenge on the jews i believe your plight for reperations was written off long ago…lol

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they may have…why? are you Anne Frank by any chance?