you’re 110% correct, but I dont believe a psycho-therapy, or drug rehab, will do anything. Psychiatrists are paid to prescribe medicine that works more on the patient believing it does rather than true medicinal effect. and rehab, well if anyones ever been to rehab, its a fucking JOKE. We used to pop beanz before it and go in rolling face and shit. It doesn’t work, and often times leads to the user meeting more people with extremely common interests (drug problem AND being stuck in “rehab”) and well, we all know where that road leads.
And I am in NO way poking fun at anyone or talking shit, when I say I don’t believe in “depression” and nonsense like that… personally, I think its the result of upper-middle class relying on money rather than education, and in turn literally looking at doctors like fucking gods that just have the power to diagnose and HEAL YOU HALLAYLUYA and believing them when they say YOU GOT THIS JACK TAKE THESE PILLLZZZZZ.
But lets not get into all that.
I think this girl needs to spend 3 days in shock camp, she won’t act like that anymore. People ACTING like they don’t give a fuck is the result of parents not disciplining their children enough because of the retarded excuses kids give for their actions, in turn causing the parents to hesitate when dishing out due justice, in fear they are doing more damage than good. Kids fucking smoke pot because they can, and they want to, and usually theres nothing fun or more social going on, so this is what they stick to. I truly believe if my parents just flipped out and said WOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY when I was acting like an idiot when I was a teen, I wouldn’t have continued doing what I did until recently, it would have stopped. She’s going to continue to do it until someone puts their foot down.
My $.02, but i’m sure people are gonna flood this after with how i’m wrong. Take it or leave it, Willyballs!! <3
weed causes paranoia, which means you worry. Some people not enough to make a difference, some people (like myself) can literally freak themselves out about something when high.
and of course you CAN get into an accident, I was just saying I have never heard of it happening. Ive smoked blunts back to back driving around and never had a problem, but i’m sure some people have. Like i said, ive just never heard of someone crashing and saying it was because they were high. If anything, I drive way too slow when im fucked up lol
I truly believe if my parents just flipped out and said WOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY when I was acting like an idiot when I was a teen, I wouldn’t have continued doing what I did until recently, it would have stopped. She’s going to continue to do it until someone puts their foot down.
As stated above… she doesnt care, she doesnt listen… she truly doesnt reason well with anything either… its a shitty situation…
And my parents, they are not pushovers… they had me fearful of any repercussion for any mistake i’ve made in my past… I was always held accountable, as will she…
Thanks everyone… she went to psychologist and then a psychiatrist… one of them couldnt prescribe drugs, the other wanted to enroll her in “his” rehab program without even consulting with her about anything…
So then please explain to me my “non-existent depression” if it comes from upper-middle class origins? Seeing my mother and I were dumped onto the streets with $52 and 2 suitcases (one with my clothes and one with hers) when I was 4… Growing up living with my grandparents, shopping at goodwill because we couldn’t afford anything more… So where’s it come from seeing I came from as far from “upper-middle class” as possible?
I WILL agree that the diagnosis is over-used and abused like a lot of things; but there ARE true cases out there; myself being one of them.
And until you walk a day in a person’s shoes who truly has depression and fights it every day; who the fuck are you to pass judgment?
I’m dating a wonderful “furthest possible from depressed” girl; who actually was similar to you in attitude; until she had a few “down” days… and she realized how miserable she was… she asked me, “is this how you are all the time?”; without meds; YES. Take the downest you’ve ever been; pet dying, mother/father dying, the DOWNEST you’ve ever been, and imagine being STUCK there, no matter what you do, no matter how “up you get”; within 24 hours you’re right back down there. The do that EVERYDAY of your life… I’m not taking a week, I’m not taking a month; I’m taking YEARS!!!
Spoiled people don’t appreciate what it’s like to finally get something you worked for, something you earned. It’s not her fault, it’s her parents fault.
Sounds like depression if you ask me. Might want to pry into the social life a bit and see take a look at the computer. Possibly key log it and see what she is typing.
I’m sure just talking to her… and being her friend would be the best option. I don’t see the point in keylogging things. It shows you have NO trust at all in the person
all i’m saying, is that depression meds haven’t been around that long, and people got by for thousands of years before that without em…
people get sad because sad things happen. Theres no such thing as people just being sad because thats what their body is making them do, no. They are thinking about shit that makes them sad. That or a combination of life events has caused them to be so sad it consumes them completely. Both of these instances have happened to me before, I really believe if you put foot to ass in an attempt to not feel sad, you won’t.
That said, my father and sister were both on depression and bi polar meds for years and it helped them, but they’re both off them now and still doing just fine…
I’ve read some stupid things in this thread, and some responsible responses through the eyes of non users.
Pot is not a drug of physical dependence, unless you smoke an ounce a day.
In-patient rehab: Putting the girl into a room of heroin addicts and crack addicts is going to make her think, “I’m not like these people. This is stupid.” Then go home and smoke a blunt.
REHAB ONLY WORKS IF YOU WANT IT TO.
Boredom is the number one cause of drug use. Locking her in a house with nothing will make her go and use incredibly the moment she gets a minute out of the house.
She needs goals put in front of her so she has motivation in life.
The underlying problem is not smoking weed. She needs psychiatric help, more so a mentor. She needs to stay busy, and have good habits.
Did you read the OP? They have been talking to her and the outcome hasn’t changed. This isn’t a bf/gf trust thing here. It seems like it’s turning into a quality of life issue. Even if she has all the material possessions, something is clearly wrong mentally. It wouldn’t hurt to check and make sure she isn’t having thoughts or ideas that she shouldn’t be.
You don’t honestly think she is going to tell her family or friends if her outward attitude is summed up as “ya, w/e”. Just my opinion and how I would handle it though.
Will: If she is so unhappy and turning to pot to make her life seem less crappy…what if you made a deal with her and if she stops smoking pot totally that she can come live with you and be back with her non-pot smoking friends in NY? being her older brother…she probably respects you alot more than anyone else right now. If she breaks the rules then send her back.
Red Flag right there. Sounds like dependency to me. Get her to rehab, with the attitude she’s copping there’s no way she’ll do it voluntarily.
It would be really easy to convince a judge that she is a danger to herself and others (i.e. Crashing a car). Depending on age, she could be compelled under threat of jail time. There’s also the option of checking her into a non-voluntary rehab program.
02svtFocus: There are many different rehab programs, designed for different addictions.
and when shes done with rehab, what will she do? Oh yeah, start smoking pot again…
come on now mike, I figured you of all people would realize this.
sounds to me like they are not talking to her as a friend, but as an authority. She needs to stop depending on pot to get through her “shitty life”, and start depending on her friends. Hence, her family needs to start taking her feelings seriously and just listen to her.
Aaaaaaand the difference between a counselor and rehab is?
You and I are recommending the same thing…She doesnt need to go dry out at a methadone clinic. But she’s already refused to talk to anyone, and seems to think this isnt a big deal. So putting her somewhere that she is forced to discuss her issues is step 1 (Admitting… see where I’m going with this?).
Secondly, this is what we get for our parents being massive pussies during our childhood. Do you think your father’s father would have put up with any of this bullshit? Mine wouldnt have.
my dad, aunt, and uncle were pretty bad as kids. My grandfather broke a chair over my dads back once. Yeah, fucked up. So to answer your question, no, he wouldnt have put up with shit. He woulda put them out on the street.
in all honesty at first notice of drug use the parents should have confiscated the car and someone should have smacked her across the face. parents these days are so afraid of tough love. she needs to see a counselor or someone who can help her with her self esteem, but NO drugs are the answer. they serve only as a crutch and will only exacerbate the dependency. pot does make you stupider as well as increase risk for cancer, hypertension, and arteriosclerosis. when i got my first speeding ticket at 17 my parents banned me to drive for 6mos and i had to wake up at 430am to catch the metro bus to make it to school by 8. owning up to your actions or saying no to your kid is ok. recreational pot usage, i guess use your best judgement but ill say confidently that there is no way to regularly depend on pot and have a good career. before everyone comes up with exceptions, for every einstein there are most likely a million fuck ups.
my Rx:
the pot shit needs to stop asap, its hard i know but it can be done
she needs more responsibility and accounting for her actions
she needs professional help for her self esteem/depression