[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:27,topic:32637"”]
I do have a problems with border patrol on a power trip conducting policing actions on local citizens.
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Man, I wish I had so little to worry about in my life that I could actually get to the point that I would call a 3 minute delay for a checkpoint, “a power trip policing action”. Fact remains, they are well within their rights and jurisdiction, regardless of your incorrect view that they should only operate within seconds of the border.
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:27,topic:32637"”]
Right, U.S. border patrol cares about what leaves this country So are you proposing that we have to check in with U.S. border control when we exit and enter the U.S.
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How many times have you crossed the border? I lived so close to the Quebec border I could hear the siren from my house when someone failed to stop at Customs. During the summer I’d cross several times a day. It’s very common, especially up there in northern NY at the small border crossings, to have US Customs check the cars LEAVING the country. Want to know why? Real simple… The people smuggling stuff into Canada are mostly the same ones smuggling stuff out. If you catch them going either way, it’s still a win.
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:27,topic:32637"”]
The point of the matter is I am a U.S. Citizen leave me the fuck alone. I gave 6 years of my life defending the freedoms of this country only to loose them to the government.
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I sincerely thank you for your service, but it doesn’t have anything to do with this. Those US Custom’s checkpoints have existed long before G.W. Bush. I can remember being stopped at one on my learners permit at 16.
[quote=“fairgentleman Z,post:27,topic:32637"”]
It’s not the roadblocks, that is only one small example. Maybe because there are better things we could have spent 500 Billion + dollars on the past 6 years.
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Yep, hindsight is a beautiful thing. What all the anti-war politicians convienently forget is the vast majority thought this war was in our best interest. Bill Clinton won’t ever say it now, but just before the war he was interviewed and said, and I’ll admit I’m paraphrasing here, “Iraq had WMD’s when I was in office, and we have no proof they got rid of them”. But, who cares. Now it helps a political party to yell and scream about how we shouldn’t be there, so that’s all you’ll hear. I’m not pissed at Bush that we went in, but I am pissed that he won’t admit based on what we know today that it was a mistake. I’m guessing that just more political crap though, because if you admit that the democrats would have a field day.
One more thing, about these, “illegal wiretaps”. The part you really have to dig to find, because the media likes to ignore this little detail. At no point did it allow surveillance on US to US calls. At no point did it allow surveillance on US to calls in other friendly nations. What it did allow was surveillance on calls from the US to hostile nations. I’m sorry, but I have a hard time getting upset about this.