Oh, yea, I heard something like that too. Mine wasn’t reduced thou (78 in a 50), so that’s why I fought it, figured I had nothing to lose.
Is that true? Is the judge able to charge the plaintiff/offender with the full original speed after it having been reduced? Can anyone verify this, or has anyone seen this first-hand?
6 points. As per my above link. 
It’s not good. 
6 Points and depending if it was an Issued Ticket or a Court Summons it
could range from $300 - $5000 and Suspended Licence of up to 24months.
The Judge has the final ruling, he can do what ever he pleases…
I got a careless driving ticket before… but in the dumbest way…
here goes
going south on kennedy, the onramp to west 401… tricky part… I go to UTSc… usualy I hit the express exit near the kennedy/401 onramp
soo there I was driving a corolla and changing lanes to the left most lane to the express… I changed the last lane behind a white van…
corolla = still picking up speed… then all of a sudden… that stupid van realizeses that he was heading to the express… slams the break and signals lright and crosses that white triangle lines and heads back to the collectors…
mean while… I was accelerating… I had to slam my breaks… and I started to slide… (no abs…) soo I was forced to release my break and vear off to the left shoulders to get thru w/out hitting the van…
after that,… I kept driving… and then a unmarked police call went on the right shoulder to pass a car and flashed a light and pulled me over… yelled at me “what the hell were you doing… follow me” took my lisence… and made me follow him off the express… off morningsdide and drive back to the station on markham road…
told me to walk into the station and made me stand there… while he talked to some lady in there saying " I had to drive on the should at 150 to pull over this guy"
came to me can gave me a ticket of careless driving…
I tried to explain what happend…
he wouldn’t listen and said “I’ll see you in court”
and that was it
fought it off…
The x copper thing to me sounds like BS, if the cop writes down on the ticket that you are going a certain speed it would be in my mind against the law to raise it up if you fight the ticket after the fact.
cop has no right to raise the speeding speed on the ticket at a court…
Like if your caught going lets say 80 in a 50 and the cop says I am going to give you a break and only give you a 60 in a 50 and you go ahead and fight the ticket anyways. The court has no right to say “well now that you fought it I am just going to put it back up to 80 based on what the cop says”. That would be as logical as if you walked in and said well I am not fighting it but I was really only going 60 not 80 honest. My current speeding ticket reads
Speeding 70KM/hr in a 60KM/hr zone
So guess what as far as I am concerned I was going 70 not anything else.
That’s true…they can’t raise the speed…but they can raise the fine up to whatever they want, really…(don’ tknow about demerit points tho)
Either way, for $50 and no points, I’m in a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what it seems…
uhh you can’t still win…
trust me on this one… if you pay that 50 dollars… it’s going to be on your insurance record for 3 years… some insurance give you one change…
and still not have a raise
but if you pay… and if your insurance isn’t nice… your insurance will go up… b/c any ticket will go to record…
3 years…
you’ll win if it’s not in your record… soo fight… even if it’s 40/50 dollars
That’s true…they can’t raise the speed…but they can raise the fine up to whatever they want, really…(don’ tknow about demerit points tho)
Either way, for $50 and no points, I’m in a lose-lose-lose situation no matter what it seems…[/quote]
Their seems to be a little confusion here. The officer cannot raise the speeding ticket after its been issued. The JP can increase the fine. They can raise the ticket back to the original speed if he/she thinks the evidence warrants it. In fact, the JP can do anything they want. However doing that (the raising the speed) is a an error in law (breach of Charter right to proper defence), and on an appeal, the JP’s decision would be reversed and a new trial would be ordered. But appeals are costly.
Very costly. JP’s can do anything. The appeals keep them in check. But who really appeals $50 fines on incorrect judgements?
I farther in than you guys. I got a Court Summons on my way back from detroit (sunday 16th of jan). 156 in 100. In the middle know where. I think blemmen or something like that and thats where I have to go for the summons
156 in 100, communications rd? been there done that, exact ticket. Have fun. sorry to hear about your luck.
156 in 100, get a lawyer to wipe it clean. You’ll end up paying a hefty fee tho.
Ok here goes, Long story short same thing happened to me 80 in a 50 cop drops it to 65 so i dont loose points now I ride a sport bike and regardless of points or not it still shows on your record a speeding ticket is just like an accident, your fault or not you still get screwed in the long run. I faught mine got a court date went back told them couldnt make that date and changed it. They give you the original date for court because all the other people he ticketed that day will be there also, if you change the date chances are he wont show up for just one ticket. Thats what I did and he didnt show, got thrown out.
FIGHT IT YOU FOOL!!!
insurance WILL go up, plus points will be taken.
6 :shock:
Count your blessings…just pay the fine. 15 over is nothing and it is your first ticket.
Chances are your insurance company won’t review your record when you renew anyways. They didn’t check mine.