The NRA on Obama

cept for the typo becuase I had a brain fart half way through typing evidently lmfao. I consider myself to be somewhat educated on firearms, and think it is rediculous the way people see them as being “assault weapons” when a simple riffle you buy from target or walmart will be just as effective.

Wow, JEG actually said something I agree with.

+1

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

  • Folding stock
  • Conspicuous pistol grip
  • Bayonet mount
  • Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
  • Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of rifle grenades) Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
  • Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
  • Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or silencer
  • Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
  • Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
  • A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
  • Folding or telescoping stock
  • Pistol grip
  • Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
  • Detachable magazine

You sir are a idiot.

Wait, are you saying people should be responsible for their own actions? Holy horse shit.

I have 2 SKS’s that would fall under “assault rifles”, but they are grandfathered in the law. It upsets me greatly that I am not able to buy a brand new one if I so wished.

Why can’t I have it? Do you really think I would kill more people with this style gun?

Lets think about it.

I get pissed and buy 10 .223 rifles and go to the top of a building. I have the guns all on target and ready to go at 200 yards+.

Not one is an assault rifle. I unload each of the guns, placing one shot per person, with the 10 round clip. Humm that is 100 dead people. Why not allow a 30 round clip? Oh because I could kill 30 people with it.

I can kill 30 people with my car, should we outlaw it?

Edit: Used wiki so people could easily see what these gun parts are.

Thats about it in a nutshell. They think people will go on a killing spree with them. Personally if I were to be in close quarters and was going to shoot someone, I would use a 12 gage with a low brass field load. no much collateral damage, but at close range is devistatingly powerful. A high powered riffle round will go through walls and such with ease. In retrospect, if I were to be sniping people, I would not use an “assault riffle”, I would use a 30-06 or a .308, probably bolt action, and I’d use a high powered scope…you would never see/find me :wink:

i like shooting guns

and i agree with jeg :shock:

I’ll give you that, forcing people to use less-than-standard size magazines ( who uses clips anymore :stuck_out_tongue: ) is retarded.

But IMO, an “assault” rifle (speaking totally on civilian terms) means it can shoot full auto, and that shouldn’t be allowed. Suppressors are illegal for obvious reasons and I agree with that as well.

Exactly. The fact that he voted against blocking the lawsuits against the gun companies and he refused to vote for someone like Roberts says a whole lot more to me about who Obama really is than his carefully crafted speeches at football stadiums.

Face it, both sides are going to tell you what you want to hear. What you need to do is look at their record (even if it’s a short one like Obama) and determine what they’re going to do from their previous actions, not their current words.

or look @ Palin’s even shorter record that she’s now reniging on issues she appeared to feel so strongly for before

:stuck_out_tongue: sorry had to

And what did I just say? They’re going to tell you what you want to hear.

Besides, I’d still rather have my inexperience at the bottom of the ticket instead of the top. :wink:

God the world sucks. This shouldn’t even be an issue at all.

I can understand a “ban” meaning limitation of full auto and silenced weapons to the public. Beyond that, I feel there should not be limitations.

Plus Obama just sucks in general, so why would you even consider voting for him?

You pick it, the rock or the hard place, which would be more comfortable to you?

Also agree with JEG. + karma (oh wait)

My own opinion…
I think automatic weapons aren’t necessary and can’t think of any reason to own one other than “its fun”, but I think you should legally be allowed to own one if you want to. The amount of legally owned and registered weapons used in crimes is very very very small. Something needs to be done about illegal weapons, not more restrictions placed on legal ones. Thats where the problem is. If a gang/mafia/etc has enough money and connections, they can get an automatic weapon and use it to commit crimes.

True, but McCain probably won’t live through his presidency leaving that stupid woman in office…

And at the same time, there would probably be so many attempts on Obama’s life (given the fact there was a few foiled plans already), we leave Biden in office… which to me isn’t something to write home about either.

Fuck what a shitty election.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

There’s a whole lot of opinion after the word FACT there

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

Wait, that’s a bad thing? I could see a real argument on the age, but I don’t see why you should be allowed to fire a weapon without passing some sort of training class/test…like driving…

heh I missed this one on that page

I think the age on pistols should be raised, and that’s coming from someone that’s 21 and wants a pistol permit.

I can’t tell you how many douchebags I know that turn 21 and make it a focus of their life to get one. I used to think that was old enough… until i got here and realized most 21 year olds are still incredibly immature

I want one of those.

I never said I agreed with all of them Joe. But yeah, 21 is fine with me. I wouldn’t oppose training though. However, we all know where that leads. All it does it turn into a joke test that is more about taxing people than actually training them, much like our drivers license program.

I just think it’s hilarious that they list that as proof of him being “anti” gun

ding ding ding. + karma (if it were still here)

No, they list that as part of a long list that proves he’s anti-gun. Taken by itself I agree, it’s a bad example, but taken as part of his entire history it fits in well.