The Ricer in 2008:

:gotme: What? I really have no idea what point you’re trying to make.

Oh, and the VW Rabbit (the new one…which I assume is what you’re talking about?) is +200lbs curb weight and -15 horse (with an additional cylinder, too) so I really, really have no idea what your point is.

I was merely stating that the GC8 is a ‘modern’ AWD platform which is lighter than the Evo. This is a stupid thing to keep arguing about.