The Trump Presidency Discussion Thread (Non-Meme version)

Found one that was “anti-immigrant” before the election, but only 4 people said they showed up:

The event was “hosted” by “SecuredBorders,” a putative U.S. anti-immigration community that was outed in March as a Russian front…

… Although 48 people clicked that they were “interested” in the protest, only four said they went to City Council Chambers that day, according to the event page

Not quite the 5k to 10k of the fake BLM protest.

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Not denying it happened, I’m trying to weight the effect. Read the example I just posted where the impact was arguably zero. I’ve been hunting around for it.

What positive fake news about Trump was put out there?

It’s a funny thing to try and measure since it lands in the matter of opinion of the voters themselves, right? The rallies/protests are definitely not what I’m talking about but it’s interesting to see.

Let me see what I can dig up for the positive ones. There wasn’t a lot since the more effective ammo was the negative news about Trump opponents, but I remember seeing some articles talking about them. My internet habits wouldn’t really be prone to stumbling on positive fake stories on Trump lol.

Yeah the fake rallies were the first thing I went to because it was actual physical manipulation of people.

I know there was the whole “Pizza Gate” thing, but that wasn’t pushed by Russia. The “Clinton Body Count” stuff has been around since the '90s so that’s not Russia either.

This is a very interesting read. Keep in mind that Donna Brazile isn’t very credible because she gave debate questions to Hillary… But in this she shits on Debbie Wasserman Schultz pretty hard, mentions that she DIDN’T TRUST THE POLLS, and talks about how the Hillary campaign washed money though the DNC to get around campaign contribution limits:

the Democratic Party was broke and $2 million in debt. “What?” I screamed. “I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.”

That wasn’t true, he said. Officials from Hillary’s campaign had taken a look at the DNC’s books. Obama left the party $24 million in debt—$15 million in bank debt and more than $8 million owed to vendors after the 2012 campaign and had been paying that off very slowly.

I had to be frank with him [Bernie]. I did not trust the polls, I said. I told him I had visited states around the country and I found a lack of enthusiasm for her everywhere. I was concerned about the Obama coalition and about millennials.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

CLIFFS: If you liked Bernie, you’re not going to enjoy reading this.

Campaign finance laws need to change. but this is all just pointless smoke at this point. the election is long over and we’re not going to see Trump fix them so it’s a dead topic for now.

How about those wild claims yesterday about the chain immigration and how Trump doesn’t trust our judicial system. Then the even more wild cover up saying that it didn’t happen even though it’s on video. The other fun one is the 100 million Trump pac move to try and get tax reform done.

crazy times.

It’s pretty funny if the DNC didn’t tank Bernie I bet he would have won.

From Donna’s book, looks like the DNC didn’t have any control over anything. It was broke and basically only getting an “allowance” from Hillary’s campaign to stay afloat, while an agreement with the Hillary Campaign locked in their influence over all decisions.

… The [Hillary] campaign had the DNC on life support, giving it money every month to meet its basic expenses…

… in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised.

Basically the Hillary campaign kept the DNC broke so that they could control them.

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CLIFFS: Hillary tanked Bernie, not the DNC. If Donna is to be believed.

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Actually, you could blame the whole thing on Obama for draining all the DNC’s funds to begin with, resulting in the DNC having to make the deal they made with Hillary’s campaign.

why are we talking about the democrats, election is over, more important stuff is happening right now

It’s cute to see them rallying against the super delegate system they put in place back in the 82 after an open primary without superdelegates in the 70’s didn’t give them the establishment candidate they wanted.

WHY IS CNN TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?!

I’m glad this stuff is being talked about. The DNC needs to flush out the scumbags too. I’m also happy to see people stand up to their own party without being up for retirement or facing a guaranteed election loss.

“I never use anything this person says but since they’re now saying something that fits my favorite agenda…”

lol. I kid.

Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC - POLITICO Magazine

Seriously, what the actual fuck. They took control of the DNC finances for almost a YEAR before she got the nomination. I can’t say that I’m surprised, but god dammit there was never any hope for another candidate. Her campaign became a cancer that infected the DNC.

Another thing that stood out to me is how Bernie handled it. He knew funds were being funneled to Hillary’s campaign (albeit not to what extent) but pushed forward and raised money through donations to fight it ethically. You guys liked to shit on him for flopping over after Hillary got the nomination but at the time, and without knowing how the election would turn out, it would have guaranteed a loss for Hillary. He, among many people in this country, could not sit with the idea of Trump over Hillary. So he swallowed his pride and hoped for what would hopefully do the least damage to the country and its citizens.

Say what you will about Bernie’s policies, but he has consistently proven that he wants to do what is right and he truly wants to help people. It really fucking sucks that he got shafted on the nomination. I agree with @LZ1 , he would have won.

lol point taken! But she does have a personal reputation to rebuild, and this will certainly help her with one wing of the Democrat party.

Seriously, what the actual fuck.

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Anyone notice a slight difference in the words this ass clown uses on twitter when a mass murderer is a white guy with a gun, vs. anyone else?

He uses different words based on the motivation of the attacker? Wow!

2nd time in a row he hasn’t called for the execution of the white attacker too, unlike when he called for the death penalty for the Uzbekistani Muslim who ran over those people.

Please ignore that in both cases the white attacker was dead after the attack, like much of the internet did.

According to most of the media Trump tried to kill some koi fish by overfeeding them this weekend too. What a monster! #FakeNews

I saw that picture and thought it was funny but didn’t see a single article about it. It might be a bit weird, but who gives a fuck? That’s almost as bad as making fun of a president for wearing a tan suit.

The Koi Fish drama is a classic example of what Trump calls “fake news.” The Guardian and CNN are trying to make Trump out to be a fish murderer, lol.

If anyone is interested, here’s the video and related memes: http://www.nyspeed.com/showthread.php?284081-Trump-Thread-(45th-President-of-the-USA)&p=4686294&viewfull=1#post4686294

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I mean seriously…

The problem is if the media is willing to lie about something so minor what are the chances they’re willing to tell the truth about anything related to Trump? We hit record low unemployment and a record high stock market, barely a peep from the MSM. Trump dumps a box of food on some fish and they cleverly edit the video to make up some negative #FakeNews . It’s disgusting how biased the media is. Even Jimmy Freakin Carter admitted the press is out to get Trump.

For sure. I have been finding it more apparent with someone like Trump because: A - He constantly does shit that makes him a target for criticism whether it’s big or small. B - There are way more news outlets that hate him vs like him.

Either way, it’s a side track to the issues that we actually care about. It doesn’t seem like anyone in here actually likes the MSM. Just gotta sift.