i would never buy brand new, like you said its not worth it. I believe our conversation is about the fact that you think the majority of people want a prius simply because you worked for Toyota. Do you think that a salesman from BMW would agree with you, NO? You are biased towards what you know and that is prius, and it sounds like you were a salesman when gas was over 4 dollars, and they were also giving out tax breaks for people with a prius, bot those two dont apply anymore