Personally though I believe if you partake in the right activities you cant even hate on the weather. I love a place where you have beaches to swim, and bodies of water to boat in the summer 30 minutes away, hills to ski and board in the winter an hour away, and atv and sled trails to ride all year round. I find people who bitch about the weather here have gone their entire lives doing nothing to make the best of it.
But youre especially right about having the right job. Its sort of the trump card in all of this, because truth be told, there just isnt a lot of room for professional growth for your basic bachelors/masters holders here(when compared to other cities). All the banks, Geico, Ingram, etc are just log jammed with with the mass of students that our trillion local colleges spit out, and thats going to keep that median salary at that $30k area for a long time (or at least until we get some more big business).
Good news is, 75% of Buffalonians’ aspirations dont extend beyond just having enough money to get drunk at the end of the week and be happy making rent. For this reason, I think any bar can thrive around here if managed right lol.
I don’t see why you all think just because it’s going to be on Chippewa it’s going to fail. Bacchus has been in that location forever and has managed to do just fine, Papaya is hopping every night (yes it’s attached to a hotel, but The Lodge is a 100 foot walk in the other direction, so that point is moot). Just give it a fucking chance and stop bitching how you’re too cool/upscale/old to go there… Hell, most dinner crowds are finished before the “action” begins on Chippewa anyhow, I think you’ll be safe.
Nothing will ever change if everyone had the same mindset as half this board.
Well no one comes to Buffalo to be in a hot bed of innovation and the leading edges of trends. People come here for the cheap cost of living and stability of a small city. Would have been cool to see the tech parks take off in Lockport with the datacenters being built to spawn some new tech companies in the area tho.
Yes, there is hotels and stuff down there which can pull people into these places but upscale and Chippewa don’t meet. Bacchus is right next to the parking garage and Papaya is at the other end to avoid a lot of the problems of Chippewa. The Lodge is dead center with no parking so people will be required to walk. Parking is key if you want to pull the middle/upper-middle class from the suburbs there for dinner on their monthly trips to the city.
^That shit happens anywhere though, but is primarily why I don’t hang around the Chip Strip. I mean for all we know the dude didn’t like the other guys shirt or something.
Lol I ran into our head of security at a local Hertel bar that I go to frequently. He was already shitfaced and to top it off was driving. I sat down and had a few beers with Gus on here, got .05’d and he bought us all a shot. He kept asking me to go out and keep drinking and check out a live band somewhere. I respectfully declined since it was a Wednesday and I did have to go to work the next day. I thought to myself there is no way this dude is making it in tomorrow. Sure as shit, he’s doing the rounds with a cup of coffee in his hands as bright-eyed and bushy-tailed as can be.
You’re acting like they have to walk a quarter mile to get there. It’s literally 200 feet from Bacchus, and even closer to the corner of Delaware. There is ample parking everywhere.
Upscale and Chippewa don’t go together because of the past. If more people were positive about the new development there, maybe things will change. If everyone keeps complaining about “the walk,” “the perception of Chippewa,” “how they would never go there,” then it will fail.
More bars will be shut down as things progress, but my guess is that establishments like The Lodge need to survive before other developers risk their money.
Man, so much Chippewa hate on here. I am too old for it, and it’s full of d-bags, but realistically, where else around here has a respectable ratio, and actually has girls that AREN’T there with their boyfriend? The Toro/Thirsty Elmwood corridor is the only thing that comes to mind, short of the straight up college bars. Maybe Allentown but factor out the lesbians and chicks in pajama pants and suddenly it’s not so hot. Occasionally you hit a great night at the suburban bars but by the next weekend the dudes all told their bros and suddenly it’s back to a sausage fest. For most of the bar-attending world, drunk 20-year old girls are an asset, not a liability.
Face it, if people didn’t care who they were looking at/potentially picking up all night they’d be drinking at home or at the neighborhood hole in the wall. Say what you will about Chip but it has the talent (a relative term in Buffalo) pool down there to draw from, and you need talent if you’re going to charge premium drink prices in this town and get away with it.
I was down at Purple Monkey for a few events on Saturdays recently and was surprised. Wasn’t bad. First time I had been down there in a long time. Everyone in this damn city hibernates for 9 months and every time there’s precipitation.
Yes, parking in lots that get your car hit, pissed on, or sat on in unsecured lots. Maybe you just may be lucky to get jumped in the M and T lot and robbed that seems to happen a few times a month. I rather park on the street on Hertel and walk a mile than a garage off Chippewa on a Friday/Saturday night.
Have you traveled to another city than Buffalo? Have you seen how a entertainment district is done properly? If you want upscale, you need to accommodate for people who make trips into the city from the suburbs and provide an area that people want to come visit and stay in. Unfortunately, the narrow mind of Buffalo just doesn’t have this yet. There is NOTHING in that area and Baccus being the only go to place that people mention is just sad for an “entertainment district”.