btw 1. this is not a jeep web-site, we are anti-american dombestic vehicles
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the thread says “turbo suv” that should explain the post and pics.
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if you want to compare a wrangler then that should be compared to the toyota fj, jeep wrangler is not in the same leauge as the land cruiser, i.e the price difference, the grand cherokee is in the land cruiser league.