well considering vista is recommended to run on a gig of ram, you will need a pretty beastie computer to run it in VMware. i have a FX-60 with 2gig of ram and 1900xt (PCI-E), and a shit load of hard drives. when i ran Vista in VMware through XP it ran decent but trust me its much better of an experience when its run by itself. but if you just want to see what its like first then by all means VMware works.
werd. i was only suggesting it so that he can get a feel for it and decide if he wants to install vista as primary OS.
personally, i think its really stupid to dual boot xp and vista
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Vista blows…I had NUMEROUS compatibility issues with programs and drivers when I tried it. Also, it adds NO functionality what-so-ever over Windows XP, and requires extra system resources to make it “look pretty” All Microsoft did, is slap some lipstick on the same old pig and call it new… and charge you more money for it. I couldn’t even get it to install on a couple PCs at the shop…
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there is so much wrong with this statement I don’t even know where to start lol…
For all of you bitching about how it needs heavy system resources, that is what makes it better. It uses up what your pc has to offer, the fact that it is using 1+gb of ram is a good thing, it means it is keeping lots of things in active memory hence making shit run faster.
My laptop dual boots vista/xp and everything runs much quicker in vista and I rarely ever use XP anymore, but yes, it is a high end machine.
It’s just like putting a beast engine in a rusted out POS, end of the day it can try as hard as it wants but the frame and suspension wont hold it together 
[quote=“chino,post:23,topic:27654"”]
there is so much wrong with this statement I don’t even know where to start lol…
For all of you bitching about how it needs heavy system resources, that is what makes it better. It uses up what your pc has to offer, the fact that it is using 1+gb of ram is a good thing, it means it is keeping lots of things in active memory hence making shit run faster.
My laptop dual boots vista/xp and everything runs much quicker in vista and I rarely ever use XP anymore, but yes, it is a high end machine.
It’s just like putting a beast engine in a rusted out POS, end of the day it can try as hard as it wants but the frame and suspension wont hold it together
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You are nuts man. Using more system resources is NOT a good thing. I prefer to save my system resources for programs and software that needs it, rather then hoggin it up by just having windows on the screen. I run a lot of resource hungry software, mainly video conversion/editing and it takes nearly twice as long with Vista as it did with XP. I also have a fairly high end machine…not top of the line, but high end. Yeah…I’d much rather wait twice as long to crunch video, just to save 2 seconds when the program first loads. :roll2: sarcasm A
Also, if your PC is a year or 2 old, good luck with compatibility.
I’d have much rather seen some added functionality/code stability then a pretty GUI. Microshaft Winblows strikes again… Giving computer illiterate america what they think they want…
We don’t see cars running a 3cylinder engine, or pumping out a 85hp motor anymore for a reason. There is better and faster technology there for a reason.
Technology is there for cheaper faster hardware. The software it uses should utilize those benefits. Why have 2gb of ram on your system if your OS is Windows 2k and can’t even benefit from that much ram?
This is the same migration from 2k-XP people complained oooOOOoOoO its just a different look, I’ll stick to my compatible system.
Of course older machines have conflicts as they weren’t built to handle Vista, same with older software. However if you have the proper drivers/proper hardware you shouldn’t have one problem with it theoretically.
The only problem I’ve had was with drivers, and wham April 14th Dell released my laptops entire driver pack and it works flawlessly. However I have since reverted back to XP simply because some of my software isn’t compatible yet.
There will always be rants and raves, and I guarentee until SP1 most people will continue to bash it. Hell people still hate on XP even with the constant updates and SP’s… ah well it’s the way of life these days.
this thread makes my head hurt…
seriously
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this thread makes my head hurt…
seriously
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GRRR VISTA BAD!!
mostly full of idiots…
[quote=“ryanmcell,post:25,topic:27654"”]
Why have 2gb of ram on your system if your OS is Windows 2k and can’t even benefit from that much ram?
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explain to me why a windows 2k machine cannot benfit from more ram
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explain to me why a windows 2k machine cannot benfit from more ram
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no benefits… the OS is the only thing that uses the ram…
programs like photoshop, FF, autocad’s performance have nothing to do with the amount of ram at all… 2gig right to VEEEESTA is all you need.
man i couldn’t even type that coherently cause it just wreaked of stupidity… i’m really hoping ryanmcell can just say…
“thats not what i meant, i couldn’t get the point across exactly the way i wanted”
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:28,topic:27654"”]
explain to me why a windows 2k machine cannot benfit from more ram
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Programs yes, but the 2k OS has nothing to it that requires it. Explain where the misconception is?
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Programs yes, but the 2k OS has nothing to it that requires it. Explain where the misconception is?
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i dont know about u, but when i install and OS, i install applications on top of it.
the OS is responsible for memory management. the more memory available, the more memory it will use, and the less times it will have to go out to ur slow ass HDD to pull data
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:31,topic:27654"”]
i dont know about u, but when i install and OS, i install applications on top of it.
the OS is responsible for memory management. the more memory available, the more memory it will use, and the less times it will have to go out to ur slow ass HDD to pull data
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However, I was not talking about programs at all. Os vs Os…
ur argument is fucking stupid man. how can u talk about memory usage and not talk about the programs it uses or what types of processes are loading?
if i have a win2k machine and i also use photoshop, i will indefintely benefit from having 2gigs of ram
u obviously dont know much about computers
lol…
[quote=“IIIQuaZIII,post:24,topic:27654"”]
You are nuts man. Using more system resources is NOT a good thing. I prefer to save my system resources for programs and software that needs it, rather then hoggin it up by just having windows on the screen. I run a lot of resource hungry software, mainly video conversion/editing and it takes nearly twice as long with Vista as it did with XP. I also have a fairly high end machine…not top of the line, but high end. Yeah…I’d much rather wait twice as long to crunch video, just to save 2 seconds when the program first loads. :roll2: sarcasm A
Also, if your PC is a year or 2 old, good luck with compatibility.
I’d have much rather seen some added functionality/code stability then a pretty GUI. Microshaft Winblows strikes again… Giving computer illiterate america what they think they want…
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im not even gonna touch this one. all im gonna say is do some research before trying to flame ppl on something u know nothing about
[quote=“boardjnky4,post:33,topic:27654"”]
if i have a win2k machine and i also use photoshop, i will indefintely benefit from having 2gigs of ram
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No fucking shit dude. I am simply saying an older operating system does not require a billion gigs of ram. I am not talking about a program and memory useage because that is as obvious as how stupid this thread is.
More visual features on an OS = require more ram. Less visual features = less ram required. Simply put. /fucking thread.
That is all I am saying I never mentioned anything about programs because anyone who knows jack shit about a computer would know that. My argument was simple Os vs Os you clearly did not take that into consideration before making a reply.
vista doesnt use more memory because of its visual effects, it uses more ram because it can, and because it will boost system performance
thats what makes it a better os
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don’t make me create a xslt for that…
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vista doesnt use more memory because of its visual effects, it uses more ram because it can, and because it will boost system performance
thats what makes it a better os
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Thank you. You finally take out the programs and we arrive at a happy medium.
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don’t make me create a xslt for that…
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Hahaha thanks for the laugh.
Ok lunch break.