Are used USED Euro Turbo SUVs cool at all?

NYSpeed Automotive
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How reliable are those engines?

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They arnt. Pcv lines, oil drain lines, injectors, coil packs etc

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Which is why you can buy a car that stickered for close to 100k in 2011 for under 20k now. Itā€™s rolling around about to be mechanically totalled at any minute.

This was an especially bad example, but the mechanic really does tear all of them apart.

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lol

edit: lol 2

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Yeah, like I said, his was a particularly bad example. :joy:

I love in the first video where Ninja goes, ā€œAs long as people keep buying these Iā€™ll always have a jobā€.

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Bmw did do a massive warranty extension on a bunch of parts but their mostly aged out by now.

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not sure if you can view that link.

im obsessed with terrible investments.

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That engine is the biggest POS ever. I would never tell anyone a first gen s63 is a good motor cuz Iā€™d be lying. I would only get a 2014+ x5m. The engine has a complete 50+% change/update of parts.

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bump again:

or this one:

all down 70% or more from original sticker. i feel like this gen of X5M will be worth buying and keeping for a decade even with maintenanceā€¦ vs. buying a newer one for more than double the price and still being out of warranty soon.

canā€™t stop thinking about it.

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Just do it already, lol

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iā€™m literally sitting here looking at manual M6ā€™s and 911 GTSā€™s too tho!!!

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pick two then lol

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Changed thread title too.

Basically, a software upgrade evens out the power difference between the two. The delta in that vide is about $90k EU. Itā€™s about $50k CAD now between these boys.

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This is why I now have zero interest in cars. This is the new goal:

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Do both

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A used X5M sounds like a maintenance nightmare.

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yes, i also have 2 other out-of-warranty, high mileage, BMW M-cars that iā€™ve daily-driven for over a decadeā€¦

itā€™s like buying expensive shoes. itā€™s a bad idea if you wear them all the time, youā€™ll wear them out. But if you KEEP BUYING more and split your use of them between several you end up using them each much less and distrbute the maintenence over time between them.

this is not good financial advice, but it is GREAT life-advice :slight_smile:

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I wouldnā€™t touch a n63/s63 with anyoneā€™s dick in this whole group. They are just dog shit engines. This is coming from a 10+ year bmw tech. Since leaving the auto industry and running my own side shop. The v8ā€™s are just problem after problem. And completely forget about performance mods. A stage 2 off the shelf tune alone put the rods are 90% their limit. If buying a used m car. Make sure it has a I6ā€¦period.

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@HouseS2K I wish there was a reliability database where people could get accurate data on cars to know if theyā€™re garbage or good. As a mechanic youā€™re likely going to interact with a majority of broken cars vs. cars that are fine, so your bias is based on your experience. But us non-wrenchers are stuck guessing: weā€™ll only ever hear about the trash.

I would have never owned any Range Rovers had I listened to the prevailing wisdom, lol.

And maybe these become more of a status symbol because, like an old Ferrari, not only do you need to be able to afford the car, but you need to be able to afford the maintenance.

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Thoughts on used premium EV SUVs? Most have 7 or more years of EV battery warranty and offer a ton of performance for the $