Are you kidding? GM insanity inside.

Each of these COMPANIES meet the standard, with one car.

No YOU are wong, idiot! CAFE stands for Corperate Average Fuel Economy. So you need to take the average fuel economy for every car that company sells over a given year and that gives you their CAFE # for the year. It doesn’t make a fucks bit of difference what one small volume, nitche market car that gets 42mpg does. THAT IS THE FUEL ECONOMY FOR ONE PRODUCT AND HAS LITTLE RELEVANCE TO CAFE STANDARDS!

Please before you continue to make a fool out of YOURSELF! Please pick up an auto industry publication and educate your self on what you speak before you speak straight out YOUR anus.

What is it you think CAFE is?? Just some cute lil name someone made up for fuel economy? It stands for Corperate Average Fuel Economy! Next time you pick a fight you might want to know what the fuck you are fighting over.

ok there buddy, first of all calm down… vent your nerd rage somewhere else

god forbid, I made a mistake, something im sure you never made in your horrible grammar and spelling error filled posts.

YES, I realize CAFE is an average standard, the fact is, car companies are able to meet and exceed the standards set by the government.

AND, there are 12 years before this standard comes into effect, yet GM has already started talking about passing on thousands in costs. Say what you want, if it wasnt for fleet sales GM would be pretty much done. Save a few models, theyre shit, and will continue to be shit.

haha dumbass

oh youre biased anyway:blah:

:lol: say what you will, any credibility you thought you had went out the window with this thread. Bash who ever you want with what ever evidence you want to concoct, cuz no one’s listening…

lol… coming from someone who put a deposit on a car, being made by a company that has publicly announced it is operationally bankrupt cracks me up.

HAHA, ohh noezzz, they is stealingz my cradibilties

:gay:

do the standards have to average out for all of gm or just the sub divisions. im sure saturn and pontiac will be fine. chevy could lose some trucks and be fine or add in another aveo like car

All of GM. I’m sure one of the reasons GM is pushing the Volt hard to get it into production.

Time to make a GM car with 90mpg…re badge that bitch under Pontiac and every thing else GM owns…

Guess I’m glad I <3 my euro cars.

i <3 my GM…besides teh clutch

I <3 your GM too lol.

awww…and i <3 your nazi sled

man ford is fucked…
half-ton trucks are included in the CAFE (3/4 ton trucks don’t need to meet epa standards)
and with the F-150 being the best selling ford… at 15 city 20 highway…they are going to need to sell a lot of eco cars!

My comment about this not being a big deal comes from the fact that they have so long to get it implemented. The reason you haven’t seen many manufactures freaking out about this is they know they just need to get a few real high MPG vehicles into their lineup, as well as bump the economy cars they sell a ton of up a few MPG and their all set.

As FightinMike obviously failed to realize while acting like he knows it all, and as has been mentioned, it’s an AVERAGE. So if you sell a few million Cobalts and manage to bump them to 40mpg you can easily sell a couple hundred thousand CTS-V’s getting 20mpg.

1 million @40mpg

  • 200k @ 20mpg
    = 36 mpg CAFE

Throw in some plug in hybrids that are going to score incredibly high on the EPA loop and I don’t see this being that hard of a goal for GM to reach.

And funny how Lutz left this part out, the part about how GM will actually get a big break under the new CAFE standards:
http://www.caranddriver.com/dailyautoinsider/13545/tougher-fuel-economy-standards-will-profit-detroits-big-three-new-study-finds.html

I wonder what subaru is going to do… with their awd set up I can’t see many of their cars getting 30mpg…much less 40. And they aren’t a luxo brand ie: (porsche,ferrari ect) where their customers won’t mind paying a gas guzzler tax.

Hold on there buddy, only part I messed up on was I thought he was asking about cars, not companies.