yeah but your smug level goes waaay up 
Never commented on the new law, I commented on the stipulation. Reading comprehension is not a strong point for you I take it?.. :gtfo:
The only thing about this law that bothers me is that it is a perfect example of how the “majority” never matters in this country. Our government is run by the top 1%.
Hybrids will always have lower resale, at least the ones they make now.
Now the best idea to save money would be to just buy a 2003 taurus
Ugly as fuck but almost right on the money.
I can’t believe lutz would say something so stupid… er, scratch that, of course he would.
total political move.
I don’t see the insanity in this. Better mpg requires more efficient engines, lighter vehicles, and less drag.
Hmm let’s see here. Lighter materials. Materials with less friction. Turbochargers. Hybrid drive systems. What do they do to the cost of developing and producing a vehicle? Oh yeah that’s right, they raise it.
As for the one who started this thread, I’m sure you’ll never own a GM anway, so what the hell is your problem? I could post all sorts of threads about everything wrong with imports. I could carry-on about the Toyota Tundra’s wide range of problems from cracked camshafts to noisy TCCs to driveshafts that come apart, but I really don’t care. Besides some dumbass would just post “well at least it isn’t a GM,” or similar useless comment. These threads are getting pretty old.
oh come on, it’s a thinly hidden attempt to cry “poor GM” and get the standard held off a while longer so GM can make more money instead of spending on R&D
Wait until the gas prices keep going higher and higher, which they will. There’s only a limited amount of fossil fuels and yes, they keep finding more and extracting more, but on the other hand China is becoming a big consumer as well as India. With all these factors, gas prices are only going to go one way, up. Hybrids start to make a lot more sense the more gas costs.
actually hybrids make less sense…because they still use gasoline.
think of it like the first PCs… they didn’t make much sense for most people to have from a cost and user standpoints… but today a few generations later we all have them…
it takes a while for new technologies to mature.
the ultimate downfall of the internal combustion engine is that it’s horribly inefficient.
You said 3k, you didn’t say under 100,000 miles.
Regardless once people start seeing problems with these cars, it will drop resale.
Bob Lutz also was quoted about the CTS-v last year saying that unless their 5-Series rocketsled gets a lot better, the “flat-out incredible” CTS-V will “suck the doors off” its foe, end quote.
also
The next-gen CTS-V “will be at a power level only described as unexpectedly high,”
Everyone expected 525 - 550 HP and the only BMW sucking off happens in Newman/MPD DIY threads
I can’t believe you guys are this naieve and short sighted! ALL OF YOU!! You think that GM is the only automaker that is going to incur higher R&D and production costs because of the new CAFE standards??!! Are you serious. The cost increases are going to be industry wide. I can’t seem to think of any car company that currently meets the 2020 standards. Please ANYONE correct me if I am wrong. You folks are rediculous. So lemme get this straight. Lutz speaks out about how CAFE will raise costs. You all bash GM for being stoopid and denouncing their demise. So Toyota, Honda, BMW, etc etc have some majic technology that the entire car industry has except GM that will allow them to meet teh new requirements with their current product line and technology. YOU ARE ALL FUCKING RETARDS!! What really concerns me her eis the inteligence (or lack there of) of the people posting in this thread. You all are the one who will struggle in the future. You are worried about GM and cafe. You might want to take a few extrea classes next simester.
Within the EPA’s small car class, the lone victor is the Honda Civic Hybrid, clocking in with a 42 mpg combined rating. The 110-hp 1.4-liter I-4, coupled to a 20-hp electric motor, helps the Civic return nearly 40 mpg in the city, 45 on the highway.
Moving up one rung to the family sedan category, the only winner is the ubiquitous Toyota Prius, carrying a 46 mpg combined average. The Prius, powered by infinitely-variable mixtures of its 76-hp, 1.5-liter I-4 and 67-hp electric mill, averages 48 mpg around town and 45 on the freeway.
Runners-up include hybrid versions of Nissan’s Altima and the Toyota Camry. Both score a combined rating of 34 mpg, and Ford’s trio of compact hybrid SUVs (Escape, Mazda Tribute and Mercury Mariner) which achieve the same average. With further refinement (e.g. elimination of excess mass), any could perhaps reach that magic 35 number. The same could be said for other small cars, including the Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris and the Mini Cooper, all of which have combined ratings between 31 and 32 mpg.
Please continue to speak directly out of your anus.
One car per company?!!! Do you know what the fuck CAFE is you douche bag? You haven’t proven me wrong. you have proven yourself an idiot.
You said, “none”…You’re wrong, deal with it toughguy
ummm he said car COMPANY, not simply one make in a lineup. jackass. he was right, you look like an idiot.