Attention SONlings

Okay… I’m gonna try my best here to explain some stuff, and apologize about other stuff.
When I came here… I posted… A lot. I still probably post a lot compared to some people, but definitely less than I did before. People aren’t willing to let go of that past though. Too many times people attack me without provocation, just because of that past. Well, let me clarify about it.
Not everyone has the same background and opportunities. I only managed to save up enough money this year to buy my 240, so obviously I don’t know about it as much as most of you do. This is why I have a lot of stupid questions. Over time, I learned to seek answers in other places, because of the extremely negative responses I’ve received here, and that’s fine with me. However, this reflects really poorly on the forum, because it’s definitely not a place that new users can freely share and exchange information.
Really, if I had been received with this kind of attitude anywhere else, I would’ve left immediately. But there’s a black S13 hatch in my garage, that I call Hayase (yea… I’m a loser… I named my car), and I love this car more than a lot of other things in my life, and because of her I stay here and put up with the crap people give me. And I think it’s the same for a lot of people. It is a car forum, and a lot of us are very passionate about our cars, so we stay out of that passion.
I’d like to apologize to all those that had a problem with me “post-whoring” and “filling up the forum with garbage” but I wasn’t trying to get anyone’s attention. There’s seriously so much anger here that people pounce on others for asking simple honest questions. When I came here, I was in the process of buying my car, and I wanted to know EVERYTHING, as naive and ignorant as that sounds. I also wanted to get to know people that know more than me and be friends with them, this is why I took such an active approach. I did my best to be friendly, but people interpreted it a completely different way. For this I am sorry, because as I said, I only wanted to make some friends.

It saddens me that in a place such as this, where people gather to be with others that they share a passion with, we have fights such as these. I realize we all have our differences, but at the top there it says The Southern Ontario 240sx Club Of Canada, so we have something in common! We’re in southern ontario, and we have a passion for the 240SX.

Before anything else, this place should be a community, and in order for a community to function, its members need to treat eachother with respect and understanding. The basis behind a community is unity and tolerance, and this is what should be developed. It’s not about what is said, but how it is said. I see a lot of mature, tolerant responses by people when someone asks a stupid question, sometimes they’re the answer the person was looking for, other times it’s: “Please use the search function or look at other threads before posting.”, but these aren’t the only kinds of responses I see. I also see insults being hurled angrily for no apparent reason, and that’s NOT okay. I’ve found that for the most part, the moderators do a fine job of taking care of things, but a lot of the times people that are not moderators or admins, decide to take matters into their own hands and post hurtful things. The best example I can think of was when someone (unnamed), posted a helpful FAQ and someone else (also unnamed) replied as follows:
"And you didn’t know this?

What the hell… It’s common sense you dolt…"
Is this the kind of response that someone that takes the time to share their knowledge with others deserves?
That’s the major thing, if you feel that a person’s post is unnecessary, then surely a post by you, insulting them and telling them this is FAR more unnecessary. And this is what starts flame wars. If someone posts unnecessary things, the moderators, who are really good at their jobs, will deal with them. For another user to step in and start insulting the poster is disrespectful and unfair. Many times people that have made a post deemed unnecessary did so because they felt that it was a useful, and helpful post. Vigilante justice is not allowed in modern society for a reason, because this ALSO breaks the law, and more often than not, the justice dealt by the vigilante is an injustice.
Anyway… I hope people read this and take it with a grain of salt, because I really don’t like the way things are going, and I don’t like how people are towards me. I realize I’ve made mistakes in the past, but I don’t think I’ve commited such a crime that I should still be persecuted.
To end, if I’ve offended anyone here with my comments, I apologize, it was not my intention to do so, and I hope that over time everyone can find it in them to forgive me, and forgive ALL the others with who they have “beef” with, so that we can be a true community.
Thanks,
Ant

Solarian, who could you possibly be talking about?

Could you also please edit you signature and refrain from using offensive language. SON’s younger fanbase, may be offended by such cursing…

This site is after all, rated PG…

I see nothing wrong with removing my sig pic if people find it offensive. I didn’t think people felt that way, but fine, it’s gone now.

Actually I was just messing with you…

No one cares about your sig…

Go Banana all you have to do is just read what I wrote man…that’s all, nothing else.

Bananaopolis? Is that the land of babanas?
ummmmmm ba na nas …

But I will keep your advise in mind for next time or for GRAMMAR CLASSES! :roll:

To summirize Solarians post, for those, who (like me) almost never read his posts anymore:

"I used to be a postwhore cuz i love my car, and now I try not to be one because I get flamed for asking stupid questions, so I go to other forums and ask stupid questions there instead.

I don’t like the posts like Pavel is making about me because that’s how flame wars begin.

This place should be a community blah blah blah. (i took out the more offensive part because I don’t want any hard feelings)

Flaming is NOT okay because noobs get hurt and when they get ignorant responses to their ignorant questions, its not okay either."

Ahahahahaha…

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Hey guys.

I really hate politic’s and slapping in my my 2 cents but I thought maybe I can put all of this in black and white.

To sumerise everything it really just comes down to plain old commone sense and normal everyday respect.

I know seeing the same question’s asked a billion times is anyoning and yes people should search more but, it’s hardly worth going crazy over.

Post whoring, I guess some people have nothing better to do but true it does clutter the board.

Flaming, this is where you have to stop and think like an adult before responding in a negative way. This is what I mean by normal respect for everyone. You don’t have to like the person or hang out with them Just do your best to repsect them here on the board. Honestly, would you like it done to you? If you really think about it I am sure you would’nt. Again solarian’s example is perfect. It was’nt called for nor needed. If you don’t like someone’s thread, don’t post. Skip it and go on.

There really is’nt anything here that is so important that it’s worth all the aggravation and energy put in. Direct it elsewhere that is actually worth you time.

We are all adults, or at least, we should all act like it and enjoy ourselves on here. Again plain common sense and just normal everyday respect will go a very long way to making everything here better.

So take care guys and have a good one.

Easy 8)

Yes, but I find that it’s better if I just do it to summarize it, then others reading over the whole thing to extract exactly the same ideas. A person doesn’t need to write a novel to express a simple point. It would be much quicker if he’d just said:

“Hi, here’s my $0.02. I have been a post whore before, but now i’m trying to improve. I really hope this forum can be more like a community since it makes all the newcomers feel unwelcome and they are forced to learn the hardway to search before they post. I hope that all those who like to flame can have a little more patience to the new guys and just ignore the ‘stupid’ posts. I’m sure a lot of poeple will appreciate it, I know I will.”

There. Simple, to the point, everyone understands, no one has anything to say about it now. It wasn’t stupid, or offensive it anyway. It gives little grounds to start flaming and it can actually open people’s eyes. Unfortunately my eyes are completely shut to the point of no return, so I won’t quit being a complete asshole.

Well first, I’ve never been a post whore, I don’t think.

Second, most of the time I find that usually a little more detail, even in sumerising, is needed to fully make a point understood.

As for being a complete asshole, :lol: that’s totally up to you man. Hey at least people can say your honest :smiley: .

Have a good one.

Easy 8)

anyone who posted in this thread before me is gay.

cept benson hes one of them metorosexuals

lets all get together and overreact to stuff… okay?

locked just because everything that needed to be said was probably said a few days ago.

thanks for the participation by all.

Sorry, needed to get my 2 cents in.

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Perhaps you are all homosexuals.