if you are looking to spend 12k a b5 s4 is not for you.
and viper i am not angry with you 
i dont take offense to people calling b5 s4 piles. but i swear everytime b5 audis come up you are first in the thread calling out unreliable when it is only half true. why dont you stfu and go on your bmw forums…ok ok now i’m done, i am seriously not angry. you fuck. ok done