Being Unhealthy Could Cost You -- Money

Finally! I have been saying this for years! Why should I pay the same premiums as the fat lazy smokers that I work with!

Being Unhealthy Could Cost You – Money
Thursday August 2, 8:08 am ET

By Jena McGregor

For employees at Clarian Health, feeling the burn of trying to lose weight will take on new meaning.
In late June, the Indianapolis-based hospital system announced that starting in 2009, it will fine employees $10 per paycheck if their body mass index (BMI, a ratio of height to weight that measures body fat) is over 30. If their cholesterol, blood pressure, and glucose levels are too high, they’ll be charged $5 for each standard they don’t meet. Ditto if they smoke: Starting next year, they’ll be charged another $5 in each check.

Clarian has been making headlines for its aggressive and unusual approach to covering escalating health-care costs. Rather than taking the more common step of giving employees incentives for merely participating in its wellness programs, such as joining a smoking cessation group or using a health coach, Clarian is actually measuring outcomes. And unlike most employers, it is penalizing workers for poor health instead of rewarding them for taking healthy steps.

“More Transparent”

But some employment lawyers and wellness program administrators believe Clarian’s approach may not be so unusual in coming years. They see employers, already overwhelmed by rising health-care costs, getting more aggressive in mandating changes in employee behavior. Garry Mathiason, a senior partner at employment law firm Littler Mendelson, says more than 300 companies have requested its assistance on mandatory wellness initiatives since it released a study on the topic in April. “In reality, you only get a certain amount of participation with incentive and encouragement,” he says. “The demand for (curtailing health-care costs) is so great that (employers) are willing to take the next step. It’s tough love.” As BusinessWeek chronicled in February, some outlier companies have even banned tobacco use for its employees altogether (see BusinessWeek.com, 2/26/07, “Get Healthy – or Else”).

In addition, regulations that became effective July 1 could prompt cautious employers to step off the sidelines. The federal government recently issued final rules on how wellness programs could comply with the nondiscrimination conditions of the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act (HIPAA). While the new regulations have been proposed for years, the final rules provide employers with some sense of security and more clarification on how much they can reward or penalize employees based on specific health results. “When you get into things that involve discrimination, employers aren’t very comfortable with the words ‘proposed regulation,’” says Jerry Ripperger, director of consumer health for the Principal Financial Group, a financial-services and insurance firm that offers wellness programs for large employers.

The final regulations were a major catalyst for Clarian Health’s new program. Steve Wantz, Clarian’s senior vice-president of administration and human resources, says his team had been considering their plan for two years, but the new regulations “gave us a lot more confidence.” Another change in Indiana state law that allowed employers to offer financial incentives or surcharges to smokers in their health plans was also an impetus. After benchmarking other companies, Clarian, which had already been encouraging employees to join smoking cessation programs and take health risk tests, decided charging employees was more “transparent.” Other companies “were providing what they called incentives through credits or discounts toward health premiums,” says Wantz. “What we found was what those employers were doing, many times, was raising their premiums and discounting them back.”

Sticks and Carrots

At Clarian, employees who have blood pressure that’s above 140 over 90, blood glucose levels over 120, low-density lipoprotein cholesterol over 130, or a BMI over 29.9 could be subject to the paycheck deductions. Of the company’s 13,000 employees, about 8,000 are enrolled in the company’s health plan. The company estimates that as many as 34% of its employees will meet the definition of being obese, while it expects lower levels for other health measures. About 26% are tobacco users. The fines are waived for employees who can provide a doctor’s note stating it’s not advisable for them to try to meet the benchmark – employees will be able to submit new notes from their doctors quarterly – and that they are complying with the proper diet, exercise, and treatment plan.

While Clarian’s plan is highly unusual, a few other employers are using the stick approach, too. Western & Southern Financial Group, a Cincinnati-based insurance and financial-services provider, has been issuing employees with high BMIs a surcharge to their premiums since 2001. Depending on their scores, employees are charged a tiered fee of between $15 and $75 a month if their self-reported BMI is high, but can have those fees refunded if their numbers go down. Preventure, a provider of fitness and wellness programs for midsize to large employers, has one client in the manufacturing industry that rewards employees when their BMI falls from their baseline score and charges them more when their number rises. “We haven’t seen a lot of companies do it,” says Laura Gilligan, director of business development for Preventure, “but I sense it might be a trend.”

What’s more likely for employers who start measuring health results is that they will provide carrots. In July, UnitedHealthcare began offering a new plan targeted at small businesses called Vital Measures, which combines a high-deductible insurance plan with a supplemental plan that provides discounts for healthy outcomes. Members who choose to participate will receive $500 discounts toward their deductible for each cholesterol, blood pressure, and BMI level they meet, along with refraining from tobacco use or taking a health risk assessment.

Legal Questions

A reward-driven approach will surely be better received by employees, say benefits consultants. “The concept of penalizing for poor health is not well accepted, and a lot of employees would react badly to it,” says Bruce Kelley, a consultant in the health-care practice of human resources advisory firm Watson Wyatt Worldwide. Clarian Health admits that its program is aggressive by design, and that employee reaction has been mixed, with much debate on its internal message boards. While some employees were supportive, there’s been “the other reaction that this is very personal,” says Wantz, with people asking, “‘How dare you? This is my personal space.’ There’s been a lot of questions and confusion.”

That’s why some benefits consultants and health-care groups think many companies won’t adopt a plan like Clarian’s anytime soon. “People are not interested in making their employees unhappy,” says Helen Darling, president of the National Business Group on Health, a nonprofit that represents large employers’ health-care interests. “We’re in a war for talent, and there are more than enough work-related challenges to manage people and performance that (penalizing) for something that is so complicated, so personal, so hard to deal with, just isn’t the right thing to do at this point.”

Others may steer clear of such aggressive plans until questions are ironed out about other legal issues besides HIPAA. Sharon Cohen, Watson Wyatt’s group and health-care benefits counsel, says that “any time an employer tries to influence employee behavior and they start to become more aggressive, there are other laws that are implicated,” including the Americans with Disabilities Act. She says it’s not clear how the requirement of taking a health risk assessment to be eligible for an insurance plan, like Clarian’s, would be seen by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission under the ADA. Clarian’s Wantz says their plan has been extensively reviewed by attorneys.

Still, Clarian’s approach has already attracted interest. Wantz says it has received calls from several local companies, along with other hospital systems, interested in their approach. “The most common response from other employers,” he says, “has been ‘thank you.’”

I kinda skimmed it over…but I see a ton of problems…first off BMI is a joke…I am like a 29…and am far from being fat…second off some people suffer from high blood pressure or high cholesterol not b/c they are not healthy or fat but b/c it is hereditary.

I do like the overall concept…Being a person that eats healthy, exercises, does not smoke…I get annoyed paying higher ins cost in result of people who do not take care of themselves. I would like to see it run sort of like car ins…where the better drivers usually pay lower rates or get rewards. But if you think of all people are not created equal and some people have a rougher time dealing with health just b/c they were born that way…I dunno I see both points of view and there is too much of a grey area to say a person is the way they are b/c they are not taking care of themselves or they were just born that way.

I agree that the health care insurance industry should be pro-rating people based on their health, not this socialist crap we have now where everyone pays the same rate and some fat piece of shit has a heart attack and my rates go up.

I think it’s a novel approach the way Clarian is doing it, but it’s going to be labelled discrimination as far as I’m concerned. Clarian shouldn’t be the ones hiking rates on individuals, rather the insurance company should evaluate and score everyone they insure, higher risk asswipes pay more and people in decent shape pay less. nuff’said.

Oh, and one more thing. It shouldn’t be on a 30 BMI as the overriding factor of good versus bad. I know some people with BMI of around 35 that can still run a mile in less than 10 minutes and pass the entire presidential fitness campaign’s limits. BMI is a factor, but not the overriding factor.

BMI = poop…I say maybe a body fat % test. I am 6’ 1/2" and weigh 215…BMI of 29…and far from fat.

I agree, its not really a perfect system but its a good idea with some work. It just burns me that the people that constantly are sick at work are the people that are standing outside smoking and slamming down fast food every day.

IMO we should be tested and a premium should be assigned to our health. When you get Life Insurance they give you a risk number, why not perform the same tests on a bi-yearly basis? I think healthcare is just something that needs some new thinking, especially with the increase of healthy Gen X’rs.

I agree…it is bullshit that someone who smokes and eats like shit pays the same rate as a person who tries to maintain a healthy lifestyle. I see the point made about life ins…makes decent sense. But like I said there are people who cant help the way they are and it is typical that the older you get your health declines as well. I would suggest more incentives for healthy people as opposed to penalizing unhealthy people. For example lower rates for nonsmoker…if you belong to a gym maybe get a discount, if you take certain classes you get a discount…things like that. I know they have stuff like that but they need to offer it at more places.

I think they need to start a more widespread system like this. It sucks that my employer has to pay so much for my medical benefits. Right now I pay nothing and get great benefit coverage (that I don’t even use because I am healthy), but if I ever put my wife on my plan or kids that is $500 bucks a month that comes out of my paycheck. It sucks because my wife and I take really good care of ourselves and never even see the doctor except for a physical once a year, we don’t take expensive meds (or any for that matter) that the plan needs to cover, and neither of us have been to the hospital. I just sucks that I have to pay higher coverage because some fat MF’er can’t stop eating at Mcdonalds and won’t go exercise and now I have to pay for the millions of diabetic fatasses in this country because they are too f’ing lazy to take care of themselves. I’m just tired of this BS, I pay too much for car insurance and health insurance that I have never used because I am healthy and a good driver.

/rant

i think it is a great idea

This is a great idea… I always said somebody needs to start something like this… Glad I’m a 5 foot 2 110lb non smoker…

:owned:

That White Castle was the exception rather than the rule! Moderation (at least in frequency!).

(I had a small platter of Popeyes chicken that day, BTW).

Gee Jenn I hope you never get knocked up, a mere 50 pounds and you’d be border line on that BMI chart…

As for the rest of this, I think it’s mostly shit. I know 5 year old kids that are diabetic, that have insulin pumps and still cant keep their glucose under 120, so they have a medical condition I guess they must be some fat asses that wont eat right and be blind or dead by the age of 20, but then that isn’t your problem since you get a lower rate right?

And what about your parents that have lead a somewhat healthily life, but the years of living in the burgh and all of the smoke from the old steel mills they now have lung cancer, never smoked a day in their life, but they still have cancer, oh well the hell with them as long as you get your lower rate right?

1st of all the article says there will be exceptions made due to medical conditions… not just being fat. You have to have a note from the Doc…

Old people are not whats killing our rates. If they have a health condition (lung cancer etc.) I’m sure they will not have money cut from the checks.

If I gain 50 pounds when im Preggers its because of one of two things, I’m haveing a 45lb baby OR I over ate. I (meaning me case specific) should not gain 50lbs during a pregnancy.

i dont agree with this at all im far from being fat and i have high blood pressure its heritary

The fines are waived for employees who can provide a doctor’s note stating it’s not advisable for them to try to meet the benchmark – employees will be able to submit new notes from their doctors quarterly – and that they are complying with the proper diet, exercise, and treatment plan.

:crying: Did we all miss this section?

I agree, but you never know what the cravings will do to you.

But isn’t all of these “Quarterly” office visits, to get notes, going to run up the health care costs?

^^^ I sort of did…too much to read while at work. But now it does make a lot more sense to me now.

Well if you don’t mind paying higher premiums, then we can just lump you in with all the fatass diabetics :bigthumb: I myself, would like to spend less since I actually know when to stop eating and am smart enough not to drink in excess or smoke