Buffalo Bills 2007 Season Discussion

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:692,topic:35063"”]

They are both limited dude! What makes you think that edwards can pass long? Do you think the coaches would call the long ball once if they knew he could pull it off ??? No!! and if they have called it he has checked down to a reciever 3 yards out more often than not ignoring opportunities that could have let to a TD. What is funny is that you don’t seem to realize that the rest of the NFL is so shitty that the bills actually do stand a good chance at making the playoffs.

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but wait , i thought you said edwards was unknown? but now he’s limited?

when losman plays, he looks like a spaz and is just going through the motions, and once in a while gets lucky (more from a reciever making a GREAT play on the ball, rather than it actually being a good throw). and how many times has he underthrown a reciever who is 3 yds downfield. such a hard pass to make i know…

is that your qb of the future?

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[quote=“Adictd2b00st,post:701,topic:35063"”]

but wait , i thought you said edwards was unknown? but now he’s limited?

when losman plays, he looks like a spaz and is just going through the motions, and once in a while gets lucky (more from a reciever making a GREAT play on the ball, rather than it actually being a good throw). and how many times has he underthrown a reciever who is 3 yds downfield. such a hard pass to make i know…

is that your qb of the future?

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NO I never said that!! Losman is not good BUT hes better for the bills right now because 3-4 yeard pickups aren’t going to win games. Thats all im saying. Edwards is the future of the team… at least for the next 2 years before you guys want another QB.

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i just don’t see the point of wasting more time with losman if they know he’s not gonna be around much longer… but knowing buffalo they prolly will end up resigning him and dragging this out even longer LOL ah well

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I think its to make themselves look better for giving him a fair try. Really this season should have been his to lose. They added a great o line and it was supposed to make him a better passer. It helped a little…

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:682,topic:35063"”]

You can’t win games with 12 points hoping the other team doesn’t get a touchdown, thats just not how the game works and it will never work that way.

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cough cough

So, you’re saying that defense is meaningless?

Not that our defense is at that level, particularly with injuries.

Now as far as F U N D E M E N T A L S

Keep opposing offense off the field. Do that by keeping opposing defense on the field & chasing around receivers as well as fighting linemen > 30 mins a game.
We’ve got a decent O line, a stud running back, and a couple of decent - good receivers.
If (there is that word again) the defense is healthy, they are possibly a top-10 defense. The secondary is fast, the lb’ers are median - good, the Dline is strong (albeit slower).

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[quote=“RobHimself,post:646,topic:35063"”]

I wish people would stop getting worked up, the bills will axe JP when he has a dismal performance.

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Actually, even if JP had a good performance run this entire season he was going to get axed. Current management drafted Edwards to be their guy knowing Losman would command big money since it was his contract year (and even bigger money if he did well), so they were preparing for the future. With the craptastic OL they put together, spotty receiver core (despite Josh Reed’s slight improvement. TEs were non existant this year), JPs chances of doing “well” were not that good to begin with.

JP will be gone at the end of the year so that’s that. My problem with the Bills is that they are stupid. THEY KNOW LOSMAN ISN’T THERE GUY AND THEY AREN’T KEEPING HIM. If they were smart, they would have TRADED him back in week 4 or so when all those QBs were getting injured and gotten some defensive help for their injury prone defense (I know I’ve said this before back in like week 2). Did they do it? No. And now you know why the Bills will always be has beens. Stupid management and stingy management.

Teams would have jumped on Losman because his contract was up and they wouldn’t have been tied to it. Bills could have gotten a DB or LB to help them out. Now they will get nothing. Story of the Bills life.

[quote=“Nikuk,post:705,topic:35063"”]

cough cough

So, you’re saying that defense is meaningless? ).

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that’s not what he said. :roll:

[quote=“Nikuk,post:705,topic:35063"”]

We’ve got a decent O line,

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Which Bills games have you been watching? Your OL sucks.

[quote=“Nikuk,post:705,topic:35063"”]

a stud running back,

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Stud? No. Consistent productive rookie? Yes. I guess it can’t always rain, huh.

[quote=“Nikuk,post:705,topic:35063"”]

and a couple of decent - good receivers.

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Please tell me you are joking? You have Lee Evans and then nobody. Peerless Price was a non factor once he got hurt (was he a factor even when healthy this year?) Josh Reed is improved, but it is easy to improve when you were as bad as he was last year. TEs… oh yeah that’s right, the Bills don’t have any.
Good receivers my ass.

[quote=“Nikuk,post:705,topic:35063"”]

If (there is that word again) the defense is healthy, they are possibly a top-10 defense. The secondary is fast, the lb’ers are median - good, the Dline is strong (albeit slower).

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Even if your defense was healthy, they would have gotten overrun. Your secondary is average at best overall,and you have no size at LB. If the defense spent any extended time on the field, they would get manhandled, as you’ve clearly seen this season.

ahh fuck it, it’s all Losman’s fault :shrug:

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I dunno, I think the O-line is decent…not great, but getting there. This is coming from someone who has felt like the offensive line has been the main problem for years. If JP learned how to trust the line and step into the pocket for once, he wouldn’t get sacked for a loss of 10 yards all the time. I blame JP for not knowing how to be a pocket passer. His poor performance as an efficient passer effects our ability to run because there is no Aerial threat. Our play calling does suck too, but this could go back to not trusting him with the ball.

Lynch is a great running back…this year. You can’t deny that. You can deny if he can do it next year and the year after that because hes a rookie, but he does look like a good running back. Never goes down on the first hit, always looking for more yardage. If the offence had some sort of passing game for the defense to worry about, you would see lynch do even better against a spread out defense.
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The receivers…not really that good and no tight ends…yeah…

Special teams are great!

Defense is missing at least 1/2 of the starters and have done pretty well. I don’t doubt for a min that we would have a top defense with the real starters out there.

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[quote=“STEALTTH,post:707,topic:35063"”]

Lynch is a great running back…this year. You can’t deny that.

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Adrian Peterson is a great running back this year. Lynch is a good running back this year with the potential to be great once he gets some more experience and if Bills management can figure out what a proper offensive line looks like. Great backs don’t average less than 4 ypc.

Hell Willis McGahee is putting up better numbers than Lynch and Billick keeps fucking up the playcalling and not running the ball. But apparently Willis sucks, at least if you listen to Bills fans. :shrug:

Wilis’ average yards per carry? 4.3. That’s right haters, Willis McGahee has 100 more yards on equal attempts compared to Lynch. Baltimore’s line sucks just as bad as Buffalo’s too.

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^ But has Lynch been on TV after blowing a critical 3rd down saying, “Yeah, I wasn’t really paying attention and didn’t know what down it was”. :wink:

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[quote=“JayS,post:709,topic:35063"”]

^ But has Lynch been on TV after blowing a critical 3rd down saying, “Yeah, I wasn’t really paying attention and didn’t know what down it was”. :wink:

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All the more reason that Lynch isn’t a great back. Only great backs can have that produciton AND have no clue what play is called or what down it is. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote=“Rx3,post:706,topic:35063"”]

:shrug:

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lol, i wasn’t trying to make the point that Losman is the only problem.

And, yes I over simplified those points.

Was just trying to convey the position.

The oline is overrated, but still the best line we’ve had in years. Sad aint it?

Lynch is a good back this year, and has all the “potential” to be better. See Oline comment above.

Evans is the key rec, and he aint no Moss. Besides that, there are 2-3 others who may equal another good reciever together… so long as they are all on the field at once. lol.

The defense is what it is. I blame D this year on the conditioning folks & poor coaching. But there are a few decent - good player listed.

I’ve made my point on Losman a few times… Edwards should start the rest of the season, there are no playoffs this year.

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Honestly, JP should start if only to insure that Edwards doesn’t have some freak injury that sets him back for next season. They held him out this long, 3 games won’t hurt his advancement.

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This QB Controvery or whatever you want to call it is disgusting. There is no controversy. Edwards is the man and should have been the man since New England on the road. He was awarded the job because of the Losman injury and the powers that be seeing there window of opportunity to install Edwards in the lineup. However because of an injury he lost his job for no real apparent reason. (I think in attempt to keep the locker room even tho that is absolutely ridiculous)

Edwards is not flashy but he doesnt have to be…atleast in 4 Pro games. He is a much smarter QB and I dont know about his “long ball” because Evans had stone hands when Edwards did throw some 30+ yard passes.

Edwards gives the Bills the best chance to win and make the playoffs the rest of this year. I dont think he is the long term franchise QB…I wish to god dispite the Bledsoe disaster they brought in a veteran proven QB instead of taking our chances via draft pics because its quite obvious QBs are a crap shoot in the draft…Leaf…Couch…Brady…Rivers…Alex Smith…etc. etc.

Why is Edwards the best chance to win this year?

Smart…understands clock management and ball control. Just look at the time of possession when he plays…it’s night and day.

This bills current D is fun to watch because its a bunch of no names playing hard…unfortunately they arent very talented and look really good when they are more rested which is why time of possession for our offense is huge.

I do not have a single complaint with Lynch and I wouldn’t get rid of him for anyone including Peterson. I admit I havent seen many Vikings game highlights but I have seen the #'s Peterson is putting up but I see Marshawn as the “hard yard” guy and I trust him to get it and give his all everytime. Not saying Peterson isn’t that guy because I have seen very little of him…but Marshawn has already endeared himself to the fan base in Buffalo and I will be the first to admit I have fallen for him. Maybe because he is noticeably trying hard everytime he gets the ball after being disgusted with the effort or lack there of old #21. Regardless of the stats I am taking Lynch everyday.

Jacksonville will be the test for Losman…huge implications in the game…playoffs…road wins…etc. etc. If he plays the Miami/NE games I am gonna drive from Atlanta to Jacksonville and run onto the field and grab him by the facemask and tell him to submit his resignation and let the triumphant return of #5 take us wherever we were probably going this year anyway…NOT THE POST SEASON.

20-13 Jags :frowning:

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ai5SaU2Mm3vkE34ho8tFwgk5nYcB?slug=ap-bills-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns

it says thomas is starting again… wtf are they thinking

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[quote=“97Ranger,post:714,topic:35063"”]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ai5SaU2Mm3vkE34ho8tFwgk5nYcB?slug=ap-bills-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns

it says thomas is starting again… wtf are they thinking

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Don’t ruin a RB that has potential to be great. We have him locked on contract so why risk having another Willis type wait?

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Maybe if we had a reciever core who could run a route that is more than a dump pass and ACTUALLY get open. Maybe if the Offensive line could actually stop the blitz and provide protection to allow more time to run a decent play.

And people are till thinking they have a shot at the playoffs? Was I watching a different game last weekend than anyone else?

Hell, they barely squeeked by the friggin’ Dolphins.

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Paging the guys who think JP gives you the best chance to win. Are you watching this game?

1 pick, staring down his butt buddy Evans for 5 seconds so that everyone on the field knew where the pass was going. Should have been 2 picks but the pass thrown directly into the hands of the Jacksonville defender was dropped.

Even the camera men are wondering why Edwards isn’t in because they keep giving shots of him on the sidelines.

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game…blouses

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lawls JP is amazing! he got lucky it wasn’t 2 INT this game but I have confidence in him that he will do it again.

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lol, oi.