What the hell are you saying wrong too… your not disagreeing with any point I made I wasn’t talking about any engine… it wasn’t the point of my post. you seem to be one of the blind people on this forum… read…think…post. your missing the one or both of the first two steps.Like I said…It depends on your budget. Your say its better because its a square motor… another person might argue that doesn’t outweigh the 400cc displacement of the KA. some may argue it does… this is how these dumb arguments start…and never end.there’s never going to be a conclusion that more than 90% of the people on the board are going to agree with. If you feel like arguing about things like this… Chocolate Vs Vanilla Ice cream which is better?