These are the #'s on myocarditis etc. by age and gender. In Ontario, dates circled, gender/age differences highlighted.
Can someone tell me how unlikely it is for a substance to accidentally target, exponentially with each dose, only young boys? fighting aged men coincidentally.
in my meetings with tenured professor / Ph.D types in these sciences they agree that the increases on dose 3 will not increase linearly. they will increase by an order of magnitude.
But there is a 99.98% chance they will be fine.
I even heard that myocarditis is usually treated w/o hospitalization. Aside from my daughters friend who was in the hospital for several days of course.
It would be nice to see how many young adults are in a study for the booster. I would assume that they are acutely aware of the myocarditis risk now.
We should have the numbers about 6 months after its mandatory and booster #4 is being shipped out.
My coworker is unvaccinated and pregnant, just tested positive yesterday while at work. Sent home immediately and has to quarantine for 10 days. No symptoms or anything. She took her test Monday and found out after being at work all week. Good system.
hard to get good numbers on preggos but the anecdotal stuff i am seeing is terrible.
@drvnkd hard to find good info on the mortality rates around myocarditis but you can listen to Dr. Lee Merritt for 40 second here…
60% mortality after 5 years
Did the coworker have to test because she’s unvaxed?
Clearly there will be no outbreak there because masks.
I would have thought that a 50% chance of death would get more attention. I’m prettythat in sure the Joe rogan Gupta podcast Gupta said myocarditis numbers were higher in covid infected people than vax injuries.
Cdc has info on their site that sort of agrees but its a pita to read through.
I have also heard of myocarditis occuring in covid people but never seen any good evidence for it.
Yeah they require off site testing for unvaccinated, test results are super delayed though
My wife waited to get vaccinated until after she gave birth.
Anecdotal, but 3 of my vaccinated friends are/were recently pregnant. 2 have had their kids (perfectly fine) and one is still pregnant.
Not for nothing but when anything comes up regarding my HEART, I’m not interested in taking it lightly.
Me too…
bruh, that site is pro-vax, pro-mask and…
“a call for an evolution in what it means to identify as a man. We share resources and encourage vulnerability, self-reflection, and empathy from us to our fellow man”
doesn’t mean there isn’t some good stuff in there but wreaks of leftist trash too.
It’s not clear how to differentiate mycardial injury from vax vs. covid. This will be espeically true as fewer and fewer people remain unvaxed. In fact, i have read privately in the medical groups i am in that this is part of the reason for over-forcing the vax, so there is no control group against which to compare vax-injuries from covid injuries.
There is a total of ~12K deaths in my age group, they say 75% of those people have multiple commodities, so lets take out a ultra conservative 50%. That is 6K deaths giving a 99.9982 survival rate if you’re fairly heathy.
On the other hand, you have a 2.9% chance of getting myocarditis in my age group from the vaxx. Myocarditis has a 50% death rate over 5 years… so I have about a 1.5% chance of dying from the vaxx vs a 0.0018% of dying from Covid.
yes and its probably worse than that.
it is said that physicians are being discouraged from reporting adverse reactions. I personally know people who had fairly serious, though hopefully temporary reactions, and their physicians advised that while it was most certainly vax-related that they were not comfortable reporting it as such. My mother is among those.
the most supported multiple i have seen is a factor of 8.3x that you would have to multiply the VAERS data or other adverse reaction reporting metrics by to get a realistic perspective on actual experiences.
and of course, that is still a generic metric. my son and nephew both have congential heart defects and we have a history of heart issues in the elders in my family and there is no way to accurately assess to increased risk potential of dose 1, 2 or infinite booster doses… which is certainly where this is going.
Ok, so you’re concerned about the risk of getting myocarditis from the shot, but not about the risk of getting myocarditis from covid? Because there is a far higher likelihood of the latter.
https://www.aappublications.org/news/2021/08/31/covid-myocarditis-risk-children-083121
Yes.
yes, i see your point in pieces like the ones you have linked but i have never heard of any kid getting covid (like actually being sick vs. testing positive), being hospitalized without comorbidities and never heard of a single case of myocarditis other than in vaccinated people.
“I’ve never heard of” isn’t science though. It’s anecdotal evidence and as humans we give far too much value to it.
It’s so easy to extrapolate data to make everything worse.
Results For the 12-17-year-old male cohort, 6/6,846 (0.09%) patients developed myocarditis overall, with an adjusted rate per million of 876 cases (Wilson score interval 402 - 1,911). For the 12-15 and 16-19 male age groups, the adjusted rates per million were 601 (257 - 1,406) and 561 (240 - 1,313).
Now run the same test with Vax only myocarditis cases for the same hospitals. Should be super easy to do and provide a great statistic for where ever that area is. I’m sure it only takes 3 or 4 cases of covid negative never vaxed myocarditis to create reasonable doubt in the study vs the 6 cases referenced.
most ‘science’ isn’t science anymore anyways. too many of these situations going on:
there is a good data set develping on vax-induced myocarditis in kids (and all vax’d), as i showed above. that dataset is going to get more and more reliable over time. the data set on unvax-covid-induced myocarditis is far less well developed and will be convoluted by the vax. it will also be self-serving for the pro-vax covidians to lie about unvax’d covid induced myocarditis so i probably wont be considering it at all.
however, i’m also not telling you what you should believe either.
there are a number of physicans presenting the case i am outlining here to FDA today for the 5-11 category. the data from the US / Israel, UK etc. all mirrors the CDN data set i shared. Again, there is nothing close to the quality of this dataset for the opposing case.
