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[quote=“RobHimself,post:42,topic:37921"”]

Thats a horrible comparison. I can build a comptuer that will last longer run faster and just out perform any HP, Dell, or Apple. And if i want i can get all faggy and make it look pretty too.

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A horrible comparison is referencing a one off custom piece you build to an off the shelf mass produced one. You don’t need to build a Mac. You don’t need to fix a Mac. It just works and works well. That is all I’m saying.

Rick I don’t know what to tell you man. I’ve had Macs in my family since 84 and and we ran all of them at least 7 years. My dad still uses his from 84 for a lot of his bookkeeping. It goes from off to fully booted in around 15 seconds and never crashes.

I had an issue with one of about a dozen macs we’ve had over the years. It was due to an uncommon drive setup with dual ultra 2 lvd scsi drives. I called Apple and they referred me to a nearby repair center. They diagnosed it and rather than making me wait for a solution that would allow the drives to work without causing occasional crashes, they gave me a whole new computer which was better in every way and transferred all my files over to it. There was no charge for any of this and I did not have any sort of extra service plan, just the factory warranty.

That very well could be the best service I’ve ever received on anything. Again, you’re buying a complete package including reliability, durability, service, performance, design, etc. and they’re worth every penny.

I do all my bookkeeping and tuning on PCs and I went to school for IT years ago. Don’t think I’m unaware that there are PCs out there that have redeeming qualities. It amazes me that some people still beat this dead horse like Apples are junk.

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[quote=“RuBiCaNT,post:60,topic:37921"”]

With OoOE, pipelining, etc, the term “RISC” and “CISC” are no longer relevant. The C2D and the X2 are more RISC like than CISC.

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yeah but you can still make a distinction between intel chips which support many different instruction sets(most which are out-dated) that each contain a vast amount of instruction. As compared to a single instructions set that has less instructions per set.

so yeah, you are right, but there is still a HUGE difference between the design styles

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[quote=“Inn-Tune,post:61,topic:37921"”]

It amazes me that some people still beat this dead horse like Apples are junk.

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Yep, they’re good computers in comparison to what else is out there. And obviously you can MAKE a better computer, but i dont think you can make one with as good of a warranty, or as sexy :wink:

And well… not many other laptops have backlight keyboards that turn on when it gets dark in the room :slight_smile:

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[quote=“JoesTypeS,post:58,topic:37921"”]

What software is that?

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Textmate, Transmit, VoodooPad, OmniGraffle, CSSEdit, Coda to name a few.

Interface/Interaction Design if we want to be Specific.

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[quote=“Rx3,post:52,topic:37921"”]

Careful planning, that’s how. Like I said, I can build you a notebook that can run Leapord faster than your Mac can. What’s the point?

Who in their right mind is going to buy Apple’s overpriced hardware and run Vista straight on it? Nobody.

You show me those numbers in a real world MAC scenario (i.e. you are running Vista on your emulator/virtual window) like everyone else with a Mac, then I’ll be impressed.

Otherwise :shrug:

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They are just running Vista with Bootcamp afaik… Isn’t that what most people are doing?

I guess I don’t understand your point… Do you not find it both surprising and impressive that out of all of the tested non-homemade notebooks, the apple is the fastest? The argument here was never about if someone here could build a faster machine themselves (which hasn’t been proven either)… but perhaps we got sidetracked.

Personally speed has nothing to do with the reasons I like Apple… nor do I think it is one of their key marketing objectives.

And for the record, I do not feel any of their machines are overpriced. My 24" imac with upgrades and a printer was well under $2k, which I consider a steal.

Lets compare the cost of Leopard vs the cost of Vista if we want to discuss some insane overpricing.

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im running vista and it ripssssssss

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[quote=“Dr.Stevil,post:28,topic:37921"”]

well… the fact that they lock down iTunes the way that they do and force you to use it if you want an iPod/iPhone.

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This is the only comment in the thread that struck me as completely and utterly fucking retarded.

  1. You don’t have to use iTunes with your iPod, you can download any of a plethora of alternatives.

  2. The competetion in this area is a fucking joke, if you complain, then you either a) have never utilized another MP with its bundled software, b) didn’t have an iPod when it came out and didn’t use itunes or c) are just fucking retarded.

I don’t see how have a very strong piece of software (on both Macs AND PCs) bundled with the hardware is a negative in any light.

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That has always been the case. The fastest laptop that runs XP was a Mac too.

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[quote=“walter,post:67,topic:37921"”]

This is the only comment in the thread that struck me as completely and utterly fucking retarded.

  1. You don’t have to use iTunes with your iPod, you can download any of a plethora of alternatives.

  2. The competetion in this area is a fucking joke, if you complain, then you either a) have never utilized another MP with its bundled software, b) didn’t have an iPod when it came out and didn’t use itunes or c) are just fucking retarded.

I don’t see how have a very strong piece of software (on both Macs AND PCs) bundled with the hardware is a negative in any light.

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yes, you do NEED to use itunes with the iPhone. As a matter of fact, you cannot activate it without it :wink:

Other MP3 players I’ve owned just show up as a usb hard disk… just drag and drop the files. You cannot do this on the iPhone, nor iPod AFAIK. So you are right, I’ve never had to use the bundled software with another mp3 player before.

I’m all ears if you can suggest to me some software to use on my phone to transfer video/mp3s to/from it.

I dislike iTunes because it’s bloat ware. Check your task manager to see how many apple processes are running in the background (including quicktime, which it silently installs… I run VLC so I don’t have to run quicktime) :wink: It’s garbage

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[quote=“Dr.Stevil,post:69,topic:37921"”]

yes, you do NEED to use itunes with the iPhone. As a matter of fact, you cannot activate it without it :wink:

Other MP3 players I’ve owned just show up as a usb hard disk… just drag and drop the files. You cannot do this on the iPhone, nor iPod AFAIK. So you are right, I’ve never had to use the bundled software with another mp3 player before.

I’m all ears if you can suggest to me some software to use on my phone to transfer video/mp3s to/from it.

I dislike iTunes because it’s bloat ware. Check your task manager to see how many apple processes are running in the background (including quicktime, which it silently installs… I run VLC so I don’t have to run quicktime) :wink: It’s garbage

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I have found that itunes BLOWS on PC’s… but runs amazing on a mac… go figure.

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[quote=“dozr,post:70,topic:37921"”]

I have found that itunes BLOWS on PC’s… but runs amazing on a mac… go figure.

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I don’t find that surprising either. It was designed for/around it.

again, I’m not a mac hater… but some of the shit they do really just pisses me off. When I play around on my friends mac, it runs great… especially itunes and shit.

on my PC, itunes runs unstable and uses all kinds of system resources… which I’m still trying to figure out why. After dicking with it for a while, I just uninstalled it and now use my friends mac to sync music and shit to my phone

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[quote=“Dr.Stevil,post:69,topic:37921"”]

yes, you do NEED to use itunes with the iPhone. As a matter of fact, you cannot activate it without it :wink:

Other MP3 players I’ve owned just show up as a usb hard disk… just drag and drop the files. You cannot do this on the iPhone, nor iPod AFAIK. So you are right, I’ve never had to use the bundled software with another mp3 player before.

I’m all ears if you can suggest to me some software to use on my phone to transfer video/mp3s to/from it.

I dislike iTunes because it’s bloat ware. Check your task manager to see how many apple processes are running in the background (including quicktime, which it silently installs… I run VLC so I don’t have to run quicktime) :wink: It’s garbage

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Gee, third result on google for “iphone without itunes” http://tech.propeller.com/story/2007/07/26/activate-iphone-without-itunes-in-1-minute/

and the fifth
http://www.hitnews.net/music-on-iphone-without-itunes/

It isn’t my fault you are lazy. And quite frankly, I prefer managing my iPod with software rather than drag/drop. I primarily use ephpod.

If you can’t figure out how to keep quicktime or other background apps like “ituneshelper” from installing, then go ahead and download bonzai buddy, it will help a lot. :cjerk:

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[quote=“Dr.Stevil,post:71,topic:37921"”]

I don’t find that surprising either. It was designed for/around it.

again, I’m not a mac hater… but some of the shit they do really just pisses me off. When I play around on my friends mac, it runs great… especially itunes and shit.

on my PC, itunes runs unstable and uses all kinds of system resources… which I’m still trying to figure out why. After dicking with it for a while, I just uninstalled it and now use my friends mac to sync music and shit to my phone

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That sounds like a problem with PCs, not with Macs or Apple :cjerk:

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[quote=“dozr,post:70,topic:37921"”]

I have found that itunes BLOWS on PC’s… but runs amazing on a mac… go figure.

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I would agree that on less capable PCs it sucks. It causes no issues for me on a well endowed machine. :wink:

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[quote=“walter,post:72,topic:37921"”]

Gee, third result on google for “iphone without itunes” http://tech.propeller.com/story/2007/07/26/activate-iphone-without-itunes-in-1-minute/

NOTE: This program will not unlock your SIM, it only activates your phone so that you can use it without having to set up an account with AT&T.

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Windows

I have successfully compiled the phone interaction code on Windows and tested it with a command-line version of iActivator (it’s in the source code), but jailbreak doesn’t work yet!

and the fifth
http://www.hitnews.net/music-on-iphone-without-itunes/

     <b>System Requirements</b>
  • Windows 2000, XP & Vista
  • iTunes 4.7 or later installed
  • Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 installed
  • Supports Apple iPod: mini (4 & 6 GB) as well as all 10, 20 & 60 GB iPods and Nano
  • Not sure if your phone will work? Try our Demo

It isn’t my fault you are lazy. And quite frankly, I prefer managing my iPod with software rather than drag/drop. I primarily use ephpod.

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I guess power users have no place in the mac realm :cjerk::tantrum::blah:

That sounds like a problem with PCs, not with Macs or Apple
yeah, because M$ wrote iTunes

“Apple just does everything better” my ass

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itunes was written for OS X and then ported to Windows. I would love to see how much you would whine had they decided not to even release a version that would work on windows…

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[quote=“dozr,post:76,topic:37921"”]

itunes was written for OS X and then ported to Windows. I would love to see how much you would whine had they decided not to even release a version that would work on windows…

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it would probably sell alot more zunes/creative media players/ect :smiley:

I could care less either way

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thats funny my creative zen doesnt require me to install any lame ass programs.

to each his own i guess, many ppl are on the ipod nutsack when there are 1034929294 better units out there, i guess when u pound ppl with advertising all the time they will buy.

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[quote=“Inn-Tune,post:61,topic:37921"”]

You don’t need to fix a Mac. It just works and works well. That is all I’m saying.

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Just because your Mac happens to work today doesn’t mean you don’t need to fix them or they are flawless. I’ve owned Dells, IBMs, and other PCs that I’ve built that have NEVER broken. Does that mean PCs don’t break?

[quote=“Inn-Tune,post:61,topic:37921"”]

Rick I don’t know what to tell you man. I’ve had Macs in my family since 84 and and we ran all of them at least 7 years…

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Ok, you’re comparing your experience with a handful of MACs at best with me, whose seen THOUSANDS of them over 10 years. If MACs were so trouble free, why are they sending Service Source bulletins to my email almost weekly covering new fixes to problems that they find with their hardware or software?

I mean yeah, I still have my Apple IIe w/ dual 5.25" floppy drives, and I fire it up every so often to play Karateka and yeah it starts right up, but that doesn’t mean Macs don’t break. :shrug:

You MAC guys crack me up sometimes with this “Macs never break” :bsflag:

[quote=“dozr,post:76,topic:37921"”]

itunes was written for OS X and then ported to Windows. I would love to see how much you would whine had they decided not to even release a version that would work on windows…

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I wouldn’t whine at all, since I have NEVER used iTunes for ANYTHING since day one. There are much better programs than Itunes to interface with your iPod.

iTunes is a steaming pile of crap.

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the only thing i hate about mac, especially macbook, is when i have to unscrew 60+ screws in order to open the damn thing.