HELP! Limit to unregistered cars (unplated) on your driveway?

hey guys my prick of a neighbor has the city on my ass. They are trying to say that I cannot have any unregistered vehicles on my driveway? WTF? at the moment I have my vintage 21 year old 300ZX on the lawn, and i need an e-test for my s14 to get plates. I also have a 97 sunfire, that has temp plates. the sunflower and s14 are on the road, so its only the z31 that is left on my driveway without plates. My landlord told me that the city is gonna come by and take pictures of the house, and will remove any unregistered cars off the driveway at my own expense.

Now, there must be some bylaw that protects me and my classic (21 year old) vehicle. I didn’t know i can’t collect cars and keep them on MY driveway.

I’m really lost and have no clue where to look. Needless to say, my neighbors hate me and they are hitting really low now to get me to move out or something? It just seems really unfair, and i would hate to lose my hobby/ passion due to a jealous neighbor.

please direct me in the right direction, if anyone knows. Also, i want to know the limits of how wide you can make your driveway, i may have to widen it to fit all my cars, but i remember not too long ago a handicapped woman had to re-do her driveway as it was widened for accessibility for her wheelchair van, but then she had to break it down because it was illegal for her to widen it.

Please guys, help me out if you can

thanks in advance

PauL

Hey Paul,
I don’t know the Canadian laws about unregistered vehicles in your driveway or about widening your driveway, but for the time being I recommend you rent out some garage space to store your unregistered cars, so you won’t be surprised one morning with missing cars in your driveway and a huge fine on your hands.

P.S Your neighbors sound like assholes

Call city hall.

Call Silverman Helps.

It’s true, you can’t extend your driveway.

But you can extend it… By that I mean you will need to make a ‘walkway’ extension where your not creating asphalt, but a wider walkway and you can just throw another car on there.

That won’t solve your problems, but it’s a start.

Best of luck.

Ok I looked up some bylaw info for your area and here is what I could find.

-There are currently existing bylaws called “Curbsider” laws that prohibit unregistered or abandoned vehicles to be on the city street, doing so will result in the car towed at the owners expense. This requires the vehicle to be on the CITY roadway and does not sound like it could be enforced if your cars are on your property.

-Unregistered vehicles are recommended to have due diligance from the owner to bring the vehicle back to condition where is can be registered. This can be proven by showing receipts or progress reports that show you are making an attempt to bring the vehicle back to par.

-If you wish to circumvent the bylaw you can place a sign on your car for a personal buiness or other means that occupies more then 25% of the cars surface and the car must remain unregistered and recive a permit to be classified as a semi-permanent sign fixuture (lol I know this one is not what you want to do but it would work lol)

Long story short, your neighbor is a prick and sounds like just another old man/woman who does not like those “young punks with loud cars”. Basicly tell him to screw off and if he does not like it to bad. The city cannot seize property that is on your lot regardless of its status as unregistered the only way it could be is if.

a)the vehicle is unsightly (your idea of vintage might differ from the city) and there is in your local area a bylaw protecting the areas look from having people using their yards to dump crap. I know some Toronto areas have bylaws so you cant drag the whole area down.

b)your vehicle poses a immediate health or saftly hazard (eg leaking gas, oil, unlocked and kids are getting into it).

Just call up Scarborough city hall and as for any bylaws regarding your situation if you need more info then what I have said. Hope its helpfull and I have not missunderstood what I was reading.

put a huge metal fence around your property with a gate so noone can see, than pave your whole property and do burnouts all day long from 8am-5pm and keep a tire fire going until everyone around you moves out…

in reality, thats bullshit, i park my car on the grass whenever i feel like it, people like that piss me off.

you should call city hall and ask about how much you can widen your driveway both before and after the sidewalk, its different for every area.

also you can register your vehicle as a project vehicle and get storage insurance on it if it bothers you (very very cheap), than it will be a fully registered vehicles and your neighboors cant say shit

also afaik if you own the property, pay mortgage, and not leased, than you can park wherever the fuck you feel like. if its a landlord with townhouses, than your contract might > you

man thanks alot guys, that is some good info. I just had to put 2 of my cars on the road today, since the city is coming to take pictures of my house (i also had an engine on the porch). Even with a nicely painted red valve cover, someone still thought we were dumping junk on the porch? The place is spic and span now, with only the z31 on the driveway, and i got an electrical issue with my s14 so i will have to push it on my driveway for the time being.

Another reason why i asked about the driveway is because my neighbor widened his driveway, the pavement runs to the front of the house where the patio slab walkway would normally be. I would love to call the city on his ass, and get him to fix it and perhaps fined? Or I can just wait until he beats his wife and kids again…

damn, i can be really evil at times…

a couple things, i am renting the home, and spoke with my landlord who knew about mine and my roomies passion for cars, and he has absolutely no problem with our hobbies (so long as he gets his check, right?) :wink:

geez i wanted to keep my car at my place instead of my parents driveway, so i can work on it during the winter, but that proves to be a challenge.

I will keep reciepts becasue i do currently work on all my rides, little by little, because i do want them all to be driven in the summer and road worthy. They are not far off, minor elevtrical buggers but the bodies are fully instact, with MINIMAL rust. Aside from the Z31, which was driven for only 3 months, all my cars are fairly quiet. I even installed a new muffler on my s14 so that it would be quieter and attract less attention.

again, thanks for all your support guys…

PauL

i had the same experience with a neighbour few houses down who didnt like me having my car sitting on the driveway and calling the city about it. i just put some old plates on the car…

Well for one…if you park your car on the front lawn…you’re a hick…:stuck_out_tongue:

Also, try contacting your MP, they are sometimes very helpful with matters such as these.

Put a for sale sign on it… even if you are not entertaining offers it may buy you some time…

Otherwise I would call your local zoning board about driveway width…

It is a pain in the ass. Let me tell you. I challenge just about anybody on this board to have more unregistered (and undeserving of registration) vehicles while living in an apartment building with 1 parking spot :wink:

The stupid thing with bylaws is that they are usually enforced with little or no actual crime being committed. Like a good friend of mine, who had his dog destroyed. A kid hopped the fence, came into his yard and kicked his dog. The dog bit the kid, and chased him off the property. The dog was deemed a menace and destroyed. Kid got a lollipop and a few stitches.

Unfortunately your neighbor complaining to the city makes a strong case for the cars being “unsightly”. Because he whined, the city will consider them unsightly to him. Now that they have the complaint, someone will come by and take a picture. Someone else will look at the complaint, with the photograph, and decide whether or not you’re doing anything wrong.

Yes, legally you’re supposed to be making an effort to improve the cars. My friend had to put a false section in his fence and move his derelict cars to the backyard in suburban Mississauga, because the city felt his cars were bringing down the property value in his neighborhood.

The big deciding factor will be home ownership. As a tenant, you are automatically the bad guy if you’re having a dispute with a home OWNER. They pay property taxes, and are likely to be around next election. You are a tenant, probably (in their eyes) don’t vote, won’t be around long, etc.

But, the great thing is the Bylaw people are LAZY. That, and there’s probably only 2 officers on duty at any one time.

I found a great deterrent was to park so close to the unplated car with a car that has valid plates. If they have to come onto your property, get belligerent.

And I also had to do the following, but damn it eventually got the job done. One of my old neighbors had a huge problem with me, my wife and our cars. She was a tart. She used to have different guys crawling into her second floor apartment window 3 or 4 times a week. One time they broke my air conditioner, using it as a step ladder, then they also hit my Charger while trying to park a car between my car and the building to stand up on the roof and crawl in. She also had a doberman that was kept in a cage 24/7, barking, snarling and crashing the cage around. My landlord was scared of her, her boyfriend lipped off to my wife, (wouldn’t answer the door when I went to visit)

So we tied up the bylaw enforcement “snitch” line every chance we got. Long story short they took her dog away, she punched a cop, she went away. I got her parking spot (woot!) and it was all good.

Another thing to consider. Fake plates. Not even good ones. A half decent color print out glued to a piece of cardboard is really convincing from 20 feet.

I made a thread not too long ago about this. They’re called clunker laws in the States. Basically the gov’t will set a bounty on old cars. You crush em, you get a tax break. Also, because an unregistered car is considered un-owned, the city can come along and take the cars if they can see them.

Oh yeah, they want to bring the laws here next.

NOTE: By-Law officers have more rights (with regard to property) than police officers… They can search (with RPG) without warrant, and love to floss their power…

stay on their good side whenever possible.

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there is some good info here. this same shit just happend to me last week. they say
i have 30 days to remove or plate the 2 cars i have on the driveway or i will be fined.
i not sure if i have an angry neighbough or if the cops are just bored(which would not
suprise me), but shit like this is so annoying it just pisses me off. i think the world is
going crazy.

peace

Reasonable probable grounds… think law enforcment,

but good guess’ none the less DTS…

Glad to know I’m not alone in this situation, although I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy (i know someone who is as passionate about cars like i am, could never be an enemy!) :wink:

yeah I think the city came to day to take pix, thats what my landlord said. I parked my s14 back on my driveway, looks like i will have her back, roadworthy, in no time. Thank gawd for the nice temperatures today…

i slapped my old plate on it, i only have the front since i lost the back, but it wass in the s14 VIN anyway, if peeps wanna be dix about it.

My beloved sunflower is gonna have to go, since it looks like my z31 is as good as sold (traded) for a reliable daily driver.

so things are looking up, and soon my neighbor wont have anything to bitch about, unless I find a nice 240 z for sale…

hahahahahahahaaaa, thanks guys for all your input

keep sliding!!!

Yeah thats a tough one. But hey it boils down to what you like I guess. I have two gearhead dads on my street that love seeing the Skyline drive around or hearing me fire it up in the winter.

But the rest of the neighbors, not so hot on it.

The neighborhood is in transition from blue collar /rocker to yuppie so you can see the clash. I get kinda tweaked when I see fizzucked up campers and broken ass vans and boats under blue tarps on driveways but would never complain, hey its their property they have rights… but man that scrap sits for years!!!

Call the cops as often as possible on this douche if hes is abusing his family, just make sure you give him the thumps up while he is in the back of the cruiser.

hahahaha you better believe i will throw out the red carpet when they come to haul his wife beatin ass to the slammer!!

man, i exploded on the guy the other day, after cussing off a parking enforcement secretary. LOL, but damn it was bad, u guys would have been proud, next time i will film it and post it on youtube. hahaha

well, the house is all clean now, looks like all the vehicles on the driveway will be driveable shortly, s14 is almost ready and i will take her around the block with system on full and at WOT, that should wake up the neighbors.

as soon as i get some info about the limit of cars i will post it up, maybe add it as a sticky once we get some solid info, jsut in case anyone else has to deal with faggot ass neighbors

ps - i have no problem with gays, “they are a very clean people”, Peter Griffin