Ok, well my name is randy, and i will be getting my first car on Nov 28 2007 as my parents will be buying me something. On that note i was planning to get a 300zx 2+2 fully loaded, but what i have heard the engine is not that strong so i was thinking to put in a vq35de, or vq30de. Will this be a hard swap or straight drop in?
… Research??
Like any engine swap that’s not the normal engine bay for that engine it will be a lot of hard/fab work. Your swap has been done but with a lot more work than most are willing to put up. The VQ motor is a tall motor and the VG motor (in case you haven’t done research, the motor in our cars) is a wide and low motor. In other words, unless you work on the hood and get the motor slung as low as possible you can expect the motor to be poking out the top
With that being said, where on earth did you hear that our motors aren’t strong?? The VG30DE (motor in your car) was only offered NA in the 2+2 and is limited by the fact that it is not boosted. Still doesn’t deny the fact that it is a rock solid motor. Again if you do some research you’ll see that people boost the NA version to our motors and run 16psi regularly without any problems. I’ve seen one failure where a person turbocharged their motor that came NA from the factory to 20psi and then he broke a wrist pin on the piston. The factory VG30DETTs run around regularly with 600HP at the wheels on stock internals and small 550cc injectors.
– Hard swap. Don’t bad mouth the VG motor.
i hate when i hear people wanna swap out their vg’s…personally i’ve never had any major problems with it and i’ve had it for 5yrs…even though i hear people ragging on them saying they’re finicky engines…i think they’re awesome…and for a 17 year old car with approx. 246 000kms on it…i think it still pulls pretty damn well…i consider it an all round awesome car haha
what you should atleast do is when you get the car…keep the vg for a few years, see how it goes…if you find your having a lot of problems and dont like the engine…then consider doing a swap of some sort
Sorry if i mislead you i have done reasearch people say vq isnt that hard to drop in since it is smaller the KA and smaller than the VG. Also im am not saying that the VG is a bad motor but its not straight a 6 meening it will reduce power if i am correct. And the reason i want to swap out is because i love to carry my friends and if im rolling in a NA VG, and then decide to change engine i would probaly go with something a little better.
1st car? get a civic, im serious. You didnt even buy the damn car and u already want to swap the engine out. Just boost the bitch and see what happens.
What??? Are you saying a V6 will reduce power and an inline 6 wont??? How old are you? Tell us, how does a car engine work? I think you should do research to see that a VQ is also a V6. Does that change your opinion about the VQ now?
Who have you been listening to? Your playground buddies that gawk over your Sport Compact Car magazine at lunch time while you tell them you’re gonna get the 300. They manage to offer up every possible option as what they would do to make it their dream car cause they feel they know shit about cars since they got a 70% in Auto Shop? I don’t mean to be harsh, but you hit a funny bone when you said V6s are less powerful than inline 6’s. A battle that I’m in with Assass1n right now.
The VQ is extremely hard to swap in, it is 2 times LARGER than a KA and yes, it is skinnier than the VG but also about 2-3 inches taller. All of this costs MONEY. I spent 4G on a straight VG to VGTT swap in my car. Same mounts and everything, but I spent a lot on getting it done right.
You really think a V6 can’t pull your friends around? How many people are you expecting to get inside a 2+2 300 anyway? It’s only a 4 seater with the two back seats barely large enough to carry infants.
Please do your research before you start making false claims. Seriously, you deserve a Civic. Learn about the car and come back to a RWD sports car like the 240SX or 300ZX, or if you can afford more then 350 or G35. Better yet, start off with a FWD Nissan like the Sentra or Altima. Way better choices than the Civic for sure.
There is nothing better for any car motor than having the right driver. VG applies the same way.
I reccomend a Toyota Echo. Swap in a 4gze and you will rock everyone’s world. But seriously buddy, i’ve never heard of anyone refer to a VG30 whether it be NA or TT to be weak or underpowered.
Case in point, read this article
This will also support what I told funkd5 today too.
The block is a particularly strong design with a single piece main bearing cap, and is capable of reliably supporting more than 1000hp.
It is not unusual to see 600RWHP 300ZXs running around on the street with nothing but bigger injectors and turbos. People USUALLY don’t touch the internals of the engine till they’re pushing more than 800HP at the wheels.
I believe also that the VG series engine won more awards than any other V6 running. Something like 11 or 12 years standing. I was hoping to see that on Wikipedia but it wasn’t quoted there.
Agreed
2cents from me.
dont get a Z32 as your first car… ESPECIALLY if your parents are gunna buy it for you. why?
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you never keep your first car. you either end up trashing it, or driving it to the ground. (case and point, my first car was a civic. it lasted for a month)
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i can get into the whole mommy/daddy’s boy talk, but lets keep it short.
ppl tend to dislike (even hate) ppl who have things given to them on a silver platter. Z32’s are nice cars, and arent cheap. its like those kids you see driving around porsches and stuff. not earned by any means.
if you save up your money and buy a Z32, you will appreciate it like its meant to be appreciated.
jumping back on topic, looks like you might need to do more research.
the VG’s are awesome engines (and i dislike V-configuration engines, keep that in mind).
I can sort of see why you’d say what you said (being of the same F&F/Initial D generation as you) but trust, you dont need a swap (should you disregard everything else i said about getting the car).
I wanted to put a RB20 in a S12, but again, wants vs needs. dont need the RB20, and frankly, cant afford it. likewise, if you DO get the z32, you wont need to do the swap, and probably wont be able to afford it.
i say that all the time. but thats just because i always get a reaction from patrick. but the vg30 does pack quite a punch regardless weather its NA or TT.:drivin
I dont know about that nissan makes some pretty shitty cars
dont touch a sentra after 99 or whenever they changed the bodystyles to the newer ones they are nightmares
and altimas well they should be called total recall and promoted by arnold shwarzenegger
I’ve heard you say alot of crazy shit
as for the v6 and inline the inline will usually put out more torque but you can still make the same power out of a vg as the rb so i dont really see the point in a straight 6 myself in this car too much work
and the 3.5 well its ok if you wanna go slower than a stock tt then you could boost it but it will blowup pretty soon after if you plan on running any boost worth while
Wowwww!!! :S
Mom and dad buying you your first car, because… you can’t afford to?? If so, how the heck can you even think of doing a swap without sufficient funds? Do you have a place to do it? Do you have the tools to do it? Do you have the skills and know-how to do it?
Or,… is it because Mom and Dad have all sorts of money (silver spoon) to do all of this for you? At any rate, I don’t believe you’re getting off to a good start. Perhaps as one other said, “get a Honda” or something simple and learn the first lessons on car (first-time) ownership.
Your research appears to be flawed as a well tuned TT will do circles around a VQ,… well almost. 
It appears you haven’t done enough research. Try starting here http://www.300zxclub.com/index.php? and do a similar search as you done here. From there go to www.tt.net to further broaden your knowledge base. After a few days you’ll come to discover that it’s not necessary to do a swap on a NA. In fact, for a first time Z or car owner, it’s best that you don’t go for the super hp range. Small steps first grasshopper will get you there soon enough. Less you become a statistic and reinforce archaic docterine on young drivers and powerfull cars. Sorry, I can’t support your wishes in this venture. :{
LOL…i think all you guys are really making him get a civic…sorry kid…i have to agree with everyone here… you need to buy a car with a lot less power for your first car. My 300 was my 3rd car and I still couldn’t handle the power of it the first month i drove it… I almost crashed one night driving in the rain…
But man you must be born shitting money… like pat said he spent 4 g’s on his swap and I spent alot as well getting a new motor i when i blew my pistons a year and a half ago. you should get a job and buy your own car and learn the value of a dollar. We’ll see then if you want to buy a 300 and swap motors right away.
buy an s13!
If you have the money, which apparently you do. Buy the cleanest S13 money can buy with a KA.
why does this thread keep going? you guys have obviously shamed this guy off TNC (possibly to death?)