I agree, the track days should be completely separate between grip and drift.
BTW, what is the TN that this is in conjuction with?
Theo
Ahhh I dont like where this is going, prepping your car to go to track events and tires is pretty expensive, to maximize learning curve you need to be on the track lapping constantly and improving your mistakes, if this is how TMP was going on and off and on and off and waiting at shannonville ? is this such a good idea ? I think it should be seperate, there are alot of track days the coming season, and its not worth it to be sitting in the pits while paying hence you could go to another track day with more track time. I think it might need to be reorganized ? Just a suggestion, still alot of time.
We are fine with having a full drift day if we get the support of everyone, if we can’t fill the slots, we are still paying the same amount so that’s why we were splitting it.
So if we have enough drifters interested, this can be an all drift event.
This thread was posted to gather interest and see what people want to get out of a track day, so keep the suggestions coming and we’ll make changes to the layout as we go.
Theo, it’s suppose to be TNC, but we couldn’t put anymore characters in the title.
TNC = Toronto Nissan Club www.torontonissans.ca
Can anyone give me some feedback on how bad dunnville’s runoffs are?
if is extremely bad to runoff if you are drifting?
anyone with personal experience?
just curious. thanks
dunnvilles runnoffs are great now
the have redone a lot of the track
i went to dunnville at the end of the season with jesse n friends…
it seemed ok to me, tho there is like gravel/ rocks in some corners.
i didnt really spin off track tho so im not sure but it seemed decent and it was fun how we ran it backwards 
split the day in half. morning session for grip, aftrenoon for drift. or vice versa.
increase the number of cars to maybe 45 cars, 25 grip and 20 drift. if you
hit up some other forums you should have no problem finding enough grip guys.
you might be hard pressed to find 36 drifters for a full day of TT. then again
i have never been to a drift event so i don’t know what the turn out is like.
also by increasing the number of total cars you can decrease the amount you
are charging.
i like the idea fo a mini swap meet to pass the time. i am sure we all have shit
we would like to get rid of. i know i do. also by inviting other car forums you
could promote your business to different clubs other than nissan/240.
just a suggestion.
oh yeah, i would be down for some grip.
peace
I can help you out here: the first 3 corners past the straight (running clockwise) are bad. There is a 35 degree bend, into a hairpin, and exit into a short left. There is gravel there, and the drop from track to ground is like 5 inches. I personally had 3 tires on the track and one off after the 1st bend doing 100km/h via a four wheel drift- I shit myself twice. After another right comes a straight, which should be safe, until the end of it into the right hander. If for some reason you plow or are cut off and drive straight off ur fu*ked again by gravel (ask Varun). The next 2 corners are fine. Then there is another straight and a left handed bend, which reduces and is followed by a swift right hander. That whole area is pretty shadey, since there are two different patches of pavement (one section was re-paved I assume) but you got lots of pavement there for some reason so you won’t go off track. lastly, a gradual right bend and little chicane before the straight and you’re onto lap two.
Whew. Anyways, I found it to be more fun that TMP, since this track is a bit narrower, forcing you to keep lines in mind. The intensity too keeps you on your toes which in turn, causes you to drive better.
there’s my 2 cents Samson 
Leo.
Dunnville is a good track, and is cheaper AND closer than Shannonville.
The not so perfect run-offs are not the best, but actually a good thing if you think about it, they force you to drive better.
A lot of people at drift events just go out there and drive too far beyond their limits. You won’t learn if you don’t push your limits, but you won’t learn by pushing them too far too fast either.
Theo
Agreed.
Most of us that drift either download or buy vids like Video Option/v-opt, Drift Tengoku, Best Motoring, JDM option, etc etc. All their amature drift tracks are filled with dangerous areas. Some have barriers, others have rocks and hills, deep sand or gravel, or huge ass track barriers that hack your subframe. Is there an event where you don’t see a car get trashed or hit? I’m not saying that this should be our goal, but their is a price to pay for what we do. Part of the sport is dealing with dangers, ie: bad runoffs.
Thanks Leo for giving me the lowdown on the track.
I agree with Theo. People shouldn’t be planning to fail or in this situation, drift off the track.
I would like to see how the dunnville track is, since i have never run on it before.
Theo the only reason you say that is cause its closer to you. Dunnville does not compare at all to Shannonville Full track or Pro.
Also, let me get this straight, bad run offs force you to drive better, how about the dangers in bad run offs?
Derek they still have not fixed the beginning of the last corner, or the entry. Frigging pavement to ashfalt, great idea…
If this is at Dunnville I’m not going, if its at Shannonville I will consider it.
Andrew.
andrew, dunnville run offs are better.
ive seen cars fly several feet in the air hitting shannonville runnoffs.
and your not suposed to go onto the new pavement on the begining of the last corner
that section is for the other setup.
Andrew, I do like Shannonville better, but Dunnville is a good track, don’t give up on it just because you blew your car up there. 
Japanese togue runners are amazing because of the danger element involved in racing on mountains. Same goes for people in the southern states. There are videos (eg, hashiriya) where american pros attest to the japnese skill level being so high due to the risks they take.
Tons of drifters were out at Dips last event, non of them complained.
lol high risk… and dangers on the track … wats the difference between street drifting then? u cant refer it to the same… might give ppl the wrong impression.
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Japanese togue runners are amazing because of the danger element involved in racing on mountains. Same goes for people in the southern states. There are videos (eg, hashiriya) where american pros attest to the japnese skill level being so high due to the risks they take.
Tons of drifters were out at Dips last event, non of them complained.[/quote]
:lol: high risks eh, japanese skill level because of touge. Thats the biggest pile of crap I have ever heard. Drifting in Japan is mostly done on the streets, they have the roads there to practice on so they use them. End of story. The UKD1 guys are just as good as many of the D1 drivers, I wonder if they learned on touge runs. Dude you are talking a pile of BS, and you watch too many damned videos.
Many drifters besides a select few on here couldn’t tell the difference between cow shit and gold.
Andrew.
Andrew, what is going on man, this is the first time I have seen this side of you.
I’m scared now. Don’t jump man, it’s not worth it.
:lol: I’m sick of reading mental puke.
Andrew.
Haha, this is gold. Allow me to put in my 2 cents. I’ve been to both, with Andrew. Dunville is nowhere as good as Shannonville, and BE’s organization skills are unmatched. At their days, we pay like 70 or 75 bucks, and we get to drive till it hurts, literally. I’ve only had to come off due to pain my arms and back, after driving for a good hour or more, or running out of GAS lol.
Dunville might have turned out better for me if I gave it a chance, but Shannonville and BE are giving me such a sweet deal that I would never consider going anywhere else.