lol, sorry, I didnt mean to step on your speculation with a statement from a Honda spokesperson, carry on
the epic downfall in sales came gradually as the car was produced for TEN YEARS, ~double the average lifespan. the economy really tanked the numbers as it has with almost every car.
Yeah, I really do think that thing is due for a major refresh, or to die. AP1 to AP2 was not really enough change to keep it going into the future.
What about AP3
Im sorry but are we all forgetting that maybe the possibility of just putting a 2.5 or even 6cyl in there could have fixed this issue.
This is just about Honda being practical in these shitty times.
The looks of the car need a change also. An AP3 model can definitely resurrect the project. However, in its current state they just need to let it die.
Came here to post THIS.
Well, its basic but its not like its untrue 
I mean, its business decisions like that which made Toyota one of the best auto manufacturers around (as far as bottom line goes). Honda is just following suit.
At this point, Honda and Toyota manufacture appliances. Apparently that’s what a large portion of the population wants in a car.
i dont really see anything at all with the s2k in the looks department. i think every company should have a car that will appeal to everyone and is still reasonably attainable for the everyday enthusiast
nissan = 350z
subaru = sti
mistu = evo
toyota = fail
honda =??? should still be s2k. fuck the civic type r, did they do away with the rsx-s? im not really up to speed with anything 01+ lol
Going to see more and more enthusiast cars go this way. Anything that isn’t easy to get to 35mpg+ or extremely profitable will be getting the ax.
isnt an s2k relativley close to 30mpg…
You know that’s misleading. It has to be the fleet average, so if they can sell a high mileage subcompact, it will be used to offset a lower-mileage sports-car or truck.
Needs more displacement on demand and weight reduction, like I said in the other thread. Give me a V8 RWD sports car that’s 2,600 pounds, and displacement on demand, and you can get good mileage on the highway.
Sad Sad day. The s2k will go down in history as one of the greatest cars of all time. Perhaps its limited run will solidify its place in automotive history.
:picard:
Here’s the problem, the auto industry is struggling. On top of that struggle we’re now piling on these new emissions requirements. That means they have to find the money for massive R&D, without passing the cost onto the customer because the customers aren’t buying as it is. Something has to give and it’s going to be the low profit enthusiasts vehicles that sell in smaller numbers than the “transportation appliances”.
The days of 2600lb cars are over, unless you want to cut back on federal safety mandates. The curb weight of the current Miata is over 2500lbs and that’s a tiny 4 cyl 2 seater.
maybe we should just use cars for fun and improve public transit.
Welcome to the 1970’s all over again…
the hell with safety heavy stuff. drive more carefully.
Brian
The one Honda i actually liked they killed. Oh well back to the import hate.
qft
that requires having personal responsibility which as stupid Americans we have seemed to of lost touch with.