you can’t even say that after all that was just said, with the k series having more potential so therefore that makes it honda>dodge
this thread was done a while ago with it left at a K swapped car is better than an srt-4…ok ill admit the srt-4 makes more power stock, but then you think power to weight.
as stated a majority of people if not all would take a k20 over a srt-4…k20 ftw :banana
just to straighten that out, i never mentioned any mods to my civic, i thought you were talking about the evo in that video having those mods
I don’t see any vids here at work, so I have no idea what you are talking about
oh ok well when you go home theres 3 videos for you to watch ;D
pssst(vtunnel.com) makes it so you can see anything on work computers :nod
proxy servers do not work either. I could setup to remote my machine at home, but I don’t care that much. It can wait til I get home. It’s not worth getting in loads of trouble if they audit my machine ;D
the dodge>honda comment was a blatant joke, btw
I’d take my 1.8t anyday of the week. :lol
kinda figured :lol
Honda>vw>dodge :crackup :
Oh god not this again :ahh
if WE really want to go into that and compare the volkswagon’s stock turboed motor
VW 1.8t Bug
Base Number of Cylinders: 4 Base Engine Size: 1.8 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4 Horsepower: 150 hp
Max Horsepower: 5800 rpm Torque: 162 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 2200 rpm Drive Type: FWD
K20
and no turbo helping it get those numbers(what i was trying to get at with the turbo neon aka srt4) :mwahaha
Did you also notice where all that power is? Below 5000rpm, where you need it. Honda can’t make a motor that makes tourque, they never have, and they never will.
P.s. you have the wrong base motor there, it’s AWM engine code 180hp 180ft/lbs at the wheels.
Ok guys stop…the k20 is faster than the bug and we know that (stock for stock)…we all know honda dosnt make tq (god damn it) but what are you goin to do
Stock k20 is not faster than a stock 337 gti or Audi TT or turbo s beetle. The k20 comes in the heaviest civic they have ever made, so no it’s not faster when in the stock car. Maybe in a 2000 pound civic three door or some shit but not in the 3000lb stocker civic.
Correct me if im wrong but the Mugen Civic RR still uses the K20 and has 240hp 160tq
yes but they come with exhaust and intake i believe so that may add that 18 hp from the type-r k20
…still technically factory. You’re not going to blame a supercar for using high end components to make that power, if its factory its fair game.
my car isnt a 3 door, its a sedan :tong…therefore it weighs more(still lighter than a type-r civic or rsx)…anyways ive shat on a TT and a modded GTI…
all these are boosted cars too, they need that little snail to help them go faster, theres MANY all motor k series running mid to low 10’s (street cars, not race cars), also TONS of k20’s running stock internals with a tune and nitrous(100-120 shot) running high 10’s (not talking shit about turboed cars im just saying, all motor kseries = NASTY! :bowdown)
BHP or WHP is meaningless if you can’t put it to the ground. Even then, powerband is what makes the difference. Start comparing a 500WHP NA to a 500WHP FI with other variables close to constant and you will see what I mean. I’ve also seen plenty of cars that make X but have a 2K powerband and fall out of the power during shifts. Just mentioning a single statistic from 1 point in the graph is misleading when doing any sort of real comparisons.
In the end, the only thing that really matters is who got from point A to point B the QUICKEST from a dig or FASTEST from a roll (I can’t believe I said that).
built, boosted s52 or non-vanos m50, or m52 ftmfw.
stock cars, not built and boosted :headbang … :haha bmw :nana
thats really REALLY pushing it. Thats an exclusive model that uses aftermarket parts that up the HP. Thats like me using the EVO FQ-400 (400chp) as an example if I ever had to defend the 4g63.
if you wanna do that than you have have to consider the srt4 factory staged upgrades… it’s factory, it’s fair game.