Looking good.
congrats man.Cant wait to see the new dynos numbers when its ready 
looking sick, one question though why didint you go with some sort of ported anti surge cover?
Thanks for the compliments, can’t wait for times and #'s. I’ll be hitting the streets tonight to get a tune on her.
Why no ported anti surge cover? IDK. I have no experience with using them, I’m cheap so I just went with the standard cover. IF, I hear surge I’ll look into getting one. My bov is authentic, no ebay junk, so hopefully it can deal releasing the pressure of the larger turbo.
Fuck your dsm, I want to fly !!!
Nice progress 
Well, It hurts me to say it. The turbo lasted for about 30-45 minutes of driving, and two pulls.
It sounds like the turbine blades shot out the back. The fins on the intake side are destroyed, it is smoking to the point I couldn’t see car headlights behind me.
The car builds zero boost.
After spending very much time fixing all the little things on the car and really taking my time to make sure everything was 100%, as I didn’t want to touch the car for a long time. It came time to tune, My buddy hopped in to do the tune. We got the coolant temps just right, then we got the fuel trims in line.
Everything was working well, good oil pressure, etc. So it was now time to do the wot via dsmlink.
Not a single count of knock, 13* of timing up top, we set the boost at 25 psi, well within the limits of my supporting mods. One test pull and everything was fine, a little rich so I leaned it out so we would be at 11.5:1 Af.
A second pull the car felt awesome, all the way up until 6500 rpm, redline is 7750.
It almost felt like a coupler tore, not quite blew off. So we pulled over and checked, He looked at the log as I inspected under the hood for anything wrong… After finding nothing we decided to do one last pull for the night as it was getting late.
I pull unto the onramp of the high way, get into third gear around 3000 rpm and give it full throttle. Lag, until 4200 rpm then the car turns into a rocket ship. I shift from 3 to 4th, for about an instant the car continued to pull then POP, it was not an actual sound, it just felt like I blew off a coupler, but behind me was smoke, lots of it.
Ok I’m thinking coupler popped and it went rich, that’s where the smoke came from. I got off the exit ramp and went to give it gas so I could pull into a gas station and have a look. I got 0 boost and I thought I could hear i/c pipe dragging.
As we were pulling into the gas station that’s when I saw the cloud of blue smoking following me, not good.
There were no i/c pipes out of place, nothing was wrong under the hood. We pulled the filter off, and saw damaged blades; we took turns feeling the ungodly shaft play and knew it was game over. We checked the feed line, it was full of oil. It must have just been a crappy rebuild from pte, it was a brand new center section… I’m pretty certain that when this turbo is pulled off there will be little to nothing left of the exhaust wheel.
Pictures will come in time; I have no real desire to touch the car. I have to be honest; I expected to break something else, not the brand new f’ing new center section.
My parents, yeah I’m 25, are asking me if this is really such a smart thing to have this toy as a d.d. and only car, I’m having trouble finding any way to disagree with them as this “tuner” lifestyle has me feeling like a junkie, with tons of time and money spent and little to show for it.
It’s not the dsms fault, she holds up just fine with 140,000+ miles on six bolt bottom end and 100% original 100,000 mile 2g transmission. Again I’m back to the same mindset… I have to get money quick so that I can spent it quick.
I would like to use a 50trim but damn PTE did not make a good first impression with me. I have a 14b here with bad shaft play but it doesn’t smoke, that is my only option at this point.
sorry to here man, pte sucks i will never buy one again after owning one.
throw the 14b on there, i have a small 16g if your interested.
get another ride, you dsm folks are like nigga fuckers. once go dms never go white
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Any recommendations Steve? And Shaggy the sad thing is…
It’s not the dsms fault, she holds up just fine with 140,000+ miles on six bolt bottom end and 100% original 100,000 mile 2g transmission.
It was this BRAND NEW pte turbo that ASSploded less than 3 hours ago. Good money down the drain.
same thing happened to the kid who bought my old eclipse that i put a .50 trim on b4 i sold it. didnt have hardly any miles but crapped itself out.
Guess I’m the only one who had good luck with PTE :bowrofl: I loved my SC61 on a stock 6-bolt/cams/smim.
Sucks to hear though, bud. Warranty? PTE has a 1-year. Or, at least they did like 30 years ago when I actually owned that car.
If your looking to run something else i’d go with something borg warner (s362 if you like bullseye or something completely BW from full race), garrett, or even something holset ( HX35 or HX40 ) <—Steve’s favorite and you can get them for dirt cheap, just have to keep an eye out for the fake china ones. :bigthumb:
You said it was rebuilt? Did pte balance it? Sucks to hear but I’m in the same boat the pte 35r on the del sol blew up a couple weeks ago, trying out a new brand now guess well see how it plays out, as far as the car and “tuner” scene, the way you have to look at it is shits always gonna break some down the line some
right now, but is the car or you gonn break first? I’ve thought about quoting multiple times but truth is it’s something we all enjoy and can’t seem to get enough of, so yes it’s a kick in the nuts having it blow up on you but your only a quality turbo away from having one badass street/strip car, y quit on it now?
I didn’t take the turbo off yet, I wanted to take a full day off from the car and rethink my game plan.
I took many pictures, but only one really turned out because it was dark and my camera never really works anyways.
As you can see the fins don’t look so hot, if you reach in and touch the wheel you can wiggle it around and it very easily touches the sides 
So now that this PTE 50 trim is absolute toast. I have to come up with something quick…As this is my d.d. and only car.
I have two turbos here, an evo 16g that has in out & side to side shaft play which also smokes, and a 14b that has in and out shaft play but does not smoke.
So, I think I’ll bolt the 14b on for the time being, but I’ll be using the ported evo 16g turbine housing.
Here are some pictures for comparison. All turbos are MHI, no ebay junk.
Here is the 14b.
Here is the evo 16g.
The unported 14b,
The ported evo 16g.
Just to show how much better, the evo 16g turbine housing is over the unported 14b housing here are some side by side pictures.(Lighter, better material, much larger ports, etc.)
Since both turbos use the tdo5 exhaust wheel I don’t see a problem swapping the evo housing onto the 14b.
This might be a smart move on my part as I’ll be sure not to break a damn thing with the 14b as I continue to look for a job to support my habit.
Luckily I still have the j pipe and other misc install parts for this style turbo. So I can get it back on in a day.
After this is all behind me, I’ll go for the Borg Warner s256 like I wanted or something else from BW or holset being that I need a new exhaust manifold anyways.
By that time I might be able to ditch the mitsu bolt on and go t3/t4.
I’m going to ask around and see if anyone wants to trade a better condition 14b or 16g locally, for guns or dirtbikes as that is all I have worth anything, that way at least I won’t have to bolt on this 14b “needs a rebuild” turbo.
Thoughts?
Well, as you all knew I had to take care of this sometime, I really didn’t feel like touching the car but I spoke with someone from PTE and they told me to send the turbo back with the invoice that the kid gave me. I don’t trust the guy I spoke with so I’m going to email/call back tomorrow and get more info or something in writing.
Now onto the devastation….
Fins bent.
A paperweight.
Oil in compressor cover.
In the vice it is time for the moment of truth.
Well the turbine wheel is in there, Kind of, I thought for sure it would have been shot out the exhaust.
It broke the shaft and was just hanging out inside housing, fins bent to hell.
Not a good sight on a turbo that is not even one full day old.
The cast turbine housing is trash too.
I’m shocked because the feed line had oil.
The drain did too, both were free and flowing.
So I don’t know what it is like sending a turbo into PTE, the guy on the phone was just like OK, huh, well send it back. I’ll need more info before I do that, like I need to know if it is covered under warrantee, what its going to cost if it’s not, etc. I’ll find that out tomorrow, when I call back I guess.
Since this is a D.D. and my only car I have to do something in the meantime.
My 16g is smoking, thats why it was replaced by the now ASSploded 50trim… so the only option I had was to put on a 14b that I had sitting here. It could use a rebuild, but the fins don’t touch the sides and it does not smoke so I figured I might as well make it as cool as you can make a 14b.
I ported out the evo 7cm turbine housing and the 2g o2 housing a bit more, they are huge compared to the stock 1g stuff that was on the car the last time this 14b saw service. I also had to port out the s.s. gasket.
I have a tial external w/g but I didn’t have ten dollars to get the flapper welded shut. I went a long time with a brake spring holding the flapper closed, but it would still open a bit, I want rock steady boost control and the fastest spooling possible if I’m using this tiny turbo so I came up with this. I also didn’t want to have the flapper welded just incase I sell this as I have new actuators here.
This is a picture of the old brake spring and two pieces of metal I had made up with an idea in mind.
After drilling them, I bent them in the vice.
BAM, it holds the flapper shut, and tight, it won’t open like it did on my 16g when it was held with the spring.
Now she is a hybrid, ready to rock and or roll.
Just look at that exhaust opening, it’s sad this is only a 14b.
When it came time to put the car back together I didn’t tell anyone or invite anyone over because I didn’t want people to see how sad I was that I had to use a pathetic 14b. The whole time my head was hanging pretty low because this is such a step backward. I have no idea how little hp I’ll make or if I should even try to max this turbo out as this turbo is not quite 100%.
Gosh it looks so little sitting in there.
I even had to use a coupler under another coupler just so the intake would fit.
How is that for overkill on a 14b powered car. I guess I’ll be running ALL timing and meth up top, I really hope my cams can pull me along. At least I won’t break anything like transmission, clutch or axles with such a small turbo.
Don’t worry I changed the oil and the filter, stepped up to 10w-40 I’ll see how that works out.
Oh well, I have the suspension and tires for it, now I have the tiny fast spooling turbo, I just need to put on my new brakes and then I’ll be ready to try my hand at …auto x.
I did a start up and walk around, I let it idle for about 7-10 minutes, no smoke or problems, so I’m just glad I have a car again without having to spend any money
damn ben. you should write a book lol
goddamn, your car is getting to mr2 status just less ghey.
I loved the 14b. When my Turblonetics took a dump and I was waiting for my SC61, I put the 14b back on, SMIM, FP2’s, etc. I think it was flowing something like 34-35 lbs/min at 16psi. I can’t remember what timing I was running, but I know I kept advancing it until the car stopped making more power. I never had any real knock issues on the 14b.
If a 4g63 was a airplane motor, Would you fly it over seas?
I have 272’s and meth, So i’ll run as much timing as it can take, I hope that will be enough. 16psi is supposed to be the sweet spot for a 14b, even some on the guys running 11’s on 14b’s are only at 16psi.
I was able to squeeze 45+ lbs/min from the 16g which is supposed to choke flow around 38ish, but that was a +30psi, and that didn’t last long …so…
But damn the 50trim was fun for the 1 night I had it, 42lbs/min @ 5000 rpm before we even got to tune it…
the 14b is just holding me over for now, idk If I’ll get a chance to play with it, 'cause if that breaks I’ll have nothing.
shag, if the dsm was a plane I would have to think about it, I prolly would though because I’m wreckless, I would bring a raft and tools though, just as I do any other time I take it for a long trip.