Now now, I’m sure she had it coming.
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For those that are saying “it’s not a mosque, its a muslim community center”
I ask:
Does a community center containing a mosque (a prayer room is another name for a mosque) not contain a mosque?
Because some of you are acting as if calling a mosque by another name, makes it not a mosque and therefore ok to build near ground zero on 9/11.
Your house has a bathroom, you live in your house, shitter is another word for bathroom, therefore you live in a shitter.
I ask:
Does a racist calling himself a Conservative American not still contain a racist?
Because some of you are acting as if calling a racist by another name, makes it not a racist and therefore ok to hate all minorities because they are minorities.
Right? cause Muslim is a race?
Arent you a college grad?
It is still racist. Religious Discrimination and Racism are hand in hand.
They know how to play you fools, well.
“We’ll call it a “community center” so that the Americans won’t know the difference”
From what I’d read previously, it was a community center with prayer room. Even if it the whole building was to be a mosque, I still would not have a problem with it.
LIKE
I just want one of you libtards to explain to me why this mosque/community center/ building with a prayer room, is set to be opened on the 10th anniversary of 9/11, if not to show the Muslims around the world that the Muslim community has gained a victory over America?
Do this with no bullshit and Ill happily leave this site and it’s 50% dumbass inhabitants forever.
Not all of us are so quick to trade in our freedom for our protection. You’re the one being played like a fiddle, so eager to shitcan the first ammendment because terrorists have scared you.
Fuck that. If they want to build a gold domed mini mecca with their own money on private land on the doorstep of ground zero they’re welcome to. I’ll be the guy next door eating canadian bacon off of lesbian strippers’ asses (aka partaking in the beerology sacrament known as the ham upon the ham) because the government can’t tell either one of us what not to do in our private lives.
Once you take that step of ditching religious freedom, we’re a simple majority away from dropping what we do 5 times a day for the call to prayer. Given what was posted earlier about 8.1 kids per Muslim, if you’re afraid of Islam your best bet is to not touch that first ammendment.
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Because 9/11 was not a Muslim victory, and opening it on 9/11 will show the world that we have more faith in our constitutional values than we do ignorant fear of Islam. Seeing our constitution not wavering in a test like that will be a flagrant victory for republicanism.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. 
- I am a republican.
- I disagree with the date that they are opening it, however I do not disagree with their right to do it.
- The Muslims did not gain a victory against America, and I think that you would highly offend the majority of Muslims by lumping them all in with the extremists that carried out these attacks.
The house of Coroba wants to open on 9/11. Not the people/politicians of New York. Try again.
Boom ^ This
- I am not into politics at all nor am I into religion at all.
- While I don’t agree with the place and time they are building their mosque or w/e you want to call it. The first amendment gives them the right.
- Muslims didn’t crash into the WTC, it was a bunch of nutbags that happened to be muslim. I would group those guys in with the suicide bombers and westboro baptist church because there is no way these people have the same mental capacity or thought process of a normal human being.
No shit asshole… LETTING THEM DO THAT shows that our freedom of speech is still intact.
You are a fucking moron.
This is the Bio of the guy who is leading this. He sure sounds like a terrorist to me. :bloated:
The people of New York are the ones who are opening this on this date and will be the ones using it. It is not being opened in America to be a Club Med for Muslims traveling from abroad. There is a significant Muslim population in NYC and they are the people that are the driving force behind this.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is Chairman of Cordoba Initiative, having founded the organization in 2004.
In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA), the first Muslim organization committed to bringing American Muslims and non-Muslims together through programs in academia, policy, current affairs, and culture. As Imam of Masjid al-Farah, a mosque located twelve blocks from Ground Zero in New York City, he preaches a message of understanding between people of all creeds. Additionally, Imam Feisal sits on the Board of Trustees of the Islamic Center of New York and serves as an advisor to the Interfaith Center of New York.
Imam Feisal has appeared regularly at the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum (Davos). He has been interviewed by and quoted in leading print media, including BBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, Frontline, and Foreign Policy. His publications include the books, Islam: A Search for Meaning, Islam: A Sacred Law (What every Muslim Should Know About the Shariah), and What’s Right With Islam: A New Vision for Muslims and the West, which the Christian Science Monitor rated among its five best books of 2004; as well as articles such as “The Ideals We Share” (Newsweek, July 31, 2007) and “The End of Barbarism? The Phenomenon of Torture and the Search for the Common Good” (with Rev. Dr. William Schulz in Pursuing the Global Common Good, 2007).
Born in Kuwait and educated in England, Egypt, and Malaysia, Imam Feisal holds a Bachelor of Science in Physics from Columbia University in New York and a Master of Science in Plasma Physics from Stevens Institute of Technology in New Jersey. He speaks English, Arabic and Malay.
Welllll… One of the stated purposes of the Cordoba House is to work to heal the social damage done by 9/11. I think the 10 year anniversary of the event is a pretty good day for that.
But you won’t be able to grasp that until you can grasp that Islam and America are not mutually exclusive institutions. “They” aren’t opening it on the day of “our” mourning.
I said tell me why THEY want to open on 9/11. NOT WHAT IT WILL DO FOR OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF THEY DO YOU FUCKING HIPSTER!
You are seriously fucking stupid.
THEY who is THEY, here is a list of THEY that died in the 9/11 attacks. It is only a partial list. I will follow it up with a few stories of THEY that died that day.
Samad Afridi
Ashraf Ahmad
Shabbir Ahmad (45 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and 3 children)
Umar Ahmad
Azam Ahsan
Ahmed Ali
Tariq Amanullah (40 years old; Fiduciary Trust Co.; ICNA website team member; leaves wife and 2 children)
Touri Bolourchi (69 years old; United Airlines #175; a retired nurse from Tehran)
Salauddin Ahmad Chaudhury
Abdul K. Chowdhury (30 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Mohammad S. Chowdhury (39 years old; Windows on the World; leaves wife and child born 2 days after the attack)
Jamal Legesse Desantis
Ramzi Attallah Douani (35 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
SaleemUllah Farooqi
Syed Fatha (54 years old; Pitney Bowes)
Osman Gani
Mohammad Hamdani (50 years old)
Salman Hamdani (NYPD Cadet)
Aisha Harris (21 years old; General Telecom)
Shakila Hoque (Marsh & McLennan)
Nabid Hossain
Shahzad Hussain
Talat Hussain
Mohammad Shah Jahan (Marsh & McLennan)
Yasmeen Jamal
Mohammed Jawarta (MAS security)
Arslan Khan Khakwani
Asim Khan
Ataullah Khan
Ayub Khan
Qasim Ali Khan
Sarah Khan (32 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Taimour Khan (29 years old; Karr Futures)
Yasmeen Khan
Zahida Khan
Badruddin Lakhani
Omar Malick
Nurul Hoque Miah (36 years old)
Mubarak Mohammad (23 years old)
Boyie Mohammed (Carr Futures)
Raza Mujtaba
Omar Namoos
Mujeb Qazi
Tarranum Rahim
Ehtesham U. Raja (28 years old)
Ameenia Rasool (33 years old)
Naveed Rehman
Yusuf Saad
Rahma Salie & unborn child (28 years old; American Airlines #11; wife of Michael Theodoridis; 7 months pregnant)
Shoman Samad
Asad Samir
Khalid Shahid (25 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald; engaged to be married in November)
Mohammed Shajahan (44 years old; Marsh & McLennan)
Naseema Simjee (Franklin Resources Inc.'s Fiduciary Trust)
Jamil Swaati
Sanober Syed
Robert Elias Talhami (40 years old; Cantor Fitzgerald)
Michael Theodoridis (32 years old; American Airlines #11; husband of Rahma Salie)
W. Wahid
For several hundred of the victims of 9/11, grief and sorrow has been compounded by constant suspicion, bias, hatred, and attacks on the faith they hold dear.
Imagine being the family of Salman Hamdani. The 23-year-old New York City police cadet was a part-time ambulance driver, incoming medical student, and devout Muslim. When he disappeared on September 11, law enforcement officials came to his family, seeking him for questioning in relation to the terrorist attacks. They allegedly believed he was somehow involved. His whereabouts were undetermined for over six months, until his remains were finally identified. He was found near the North Tower, with his EMT medical bag beside him, presumably doing everything he could to help those in need. His family could finally rest, knowing that he died the hero they always knew him to be.
Or imagine being Baraheen Ashrafi, nine months pregnant with her second child. Her husband, Mohammad Chowdhury, was a waiter at Windows of the World restaurant, on the top floors of Tower One. The morning of September 11, they prayed salaat-l-fajr (the pre-dawn prayer) together, and he went off to work. She never saw him again. Their son, Farqad, was born 48 hours after the attacks – one of the first 9/11 orphans to be born. In an interview with CTV Canada, she relates that in the months to follow, she mourned for her husband and endured the hostility of some ignorant people around her. “When they saw me … I’m wearing a scarf. There is a hate look.”
Or consider Rahma Salie, a passenger on American Airlines #11 that crashed into the North Tower. Rahma, a Muslim of Sri Lankan origin, was traveling with her husband Michael (a convert to Islam) to attend a friend’s wedding in California. Rahma was 7 months pregnant with their first child. According to the Independent UK (October 11, 2001), Rahma’s name was initially put on an FBI watch list, because her “Muslim-sounding” name was on the passenger manifest, and her travel patterns were similar to those of the hijackers (she was a computer consultant living in Boston). Although her name was eventually removed from the list, several of her family members were barred from taking flights to her memorial service. Her mother, Haleema, said, "I would like everyone to know that she was a Muslim, she is a Muslim and we are victims too, of this tragic incident.”