Opinions are like A$$holes we all got em.

[FourGee6Tee3]

@fmfkid250

understand loss because of the awd, is that it?

Pretty Much

Lets stop bitchin everyone we are admiring got where they did learning and discussing not arguing I am not with out sin (no pun intended) but I don’t like it when people talk out of thier ass.

How about that EJ20?

[fmfkid250]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/FF405C52-2420-4789-81D9-5BCCDAB95E41.htm

hope this motivates everyone to get started on shit, i know it worked for me

[Pewter]

times on last two runs?

[ZEX350Z]

drooooollllllll…i want a k series bad. Seems like a hell of a lot of work to swap though.

[1320]

@fmfkid250

what i truly dont understand is why you see dsms running 22-25 psi only maken high 3 low 400 hp and u see a honda running 22-25 you get 500-550, i understand loss because of the awd, is that it?

Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either.

[T70_Tsi]

@fmfkid250

its sam…it happens all the time,
what i truly dont understand is why you see dsms running 22-25 psi only maken high 3 low 400 hp and u see a honda running 22-25 you get 500-550, i understand loss because of the awd, is that it?

honda’s dont’ run 7.8:1 compression

[T70_Tsi]

@unicorn

Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either.

until you build a dsm that’s faster than all those bandaid cars you really can’t say anything.

[fmfkid250]

@unicorn

Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either.

ahh i see

[ZEX350Z]

Does AEM make a plug’n play for DSM?

[fmfkid250]

@T70_Tsi

honda’s dont’ run 7.8:1 compression

yea i figured that too,

7.8…wow thats low…i was like 8.4 @ 15psi and i was trappen 126+ i have no idea what kind of power it put down

[T70_Tsi]

my motor is 8.3:1 now

[system]

@T70_Tsi

until you build a dsm that’s faster than all those bandaid cars you really can’t say anything.

you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right?

[STEELCITYEVO8]

aem makes plugnplay for the evo so u would think that they would for dsm

[fmfkid250]

@BoostedITR41

you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right?

he said dsm

[Pewter]

@fmfkid250

he said dsm

read sammy read

[system]

@unicorn

Because most of them use lower compression, a lot of them are still Mass Air cars, which is also a big restriction. Tuning software also has a lot to do with it. Most DSM guys settle on DSMlinks, Eprom tunes, AFC’s and other ECU “bandaids” if you will. And yes, the AWDrivetrain loss doesnt help either.

you would be suprised at how high compression is on the faster DSM cars. I believe the AMS cars are around 9:1. Mass Air is a restriction as is AWD but not a 200whp restriction. fact is that DSM motors are stout from the factory since they are iron but the other stuff that fails inside the motor is what makes them unreliable. you have to look at head design when you start comparing HP at XXX boost. much like your 240, it couldn’t make any more power on those stock cams because it couldn’t breathe anymore, you swaped cams and picked up 50hp at the same boost level.

If we are talking motor design I would say the most efficient head is goin to be from honda cams and all. now on the bottom end side the 4g63 and SR20 are goin to be on top of the list.

[T70_Tsi]

@BoostedITR41

you do realize that he has gone 11.0 on ET streets with his old stock block car right?

i dont’ care what his 240 ran i said until he builds a dsm that’s quicker to not make assumptions there are 600+whp cars out there on dsmlink i really woulnt want to pick fights calling it a bandaid

[system]

@T70_Tsi

i dont’ care what his 240 ran i said until he builds a dsm that’s quicker to not make assumptions there are 600+whp cars out there on dsmlink i really woulnt want to pick fights calling it a bandaid

it is a bandaid… 600whp hunks of shit that break 99% of the time. a vpc gcc would be better than that shit ass dsmlink

[T70_Tsi]

@BoostedITR41

it is a bandaid… 600whp hunks of shit that break 99% of the time. a vpc gcc would be better than that shit ass dsmlink

you’re right whatever dood.

[STEELCITYEVO8]

@BoostedITR41

If we are talking motor design I would say the most efficient head is goin to be from honda cams and all. now on the bottom end side the 4g63 and SR20 are goin to be on top of the list.

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