sale gone bad, need some opinions

well about 6 weeks ago i sold what i thought were skunk2 tuner 1 cams (they had a marking on the end with a T, and i had asked a couple vendors what they were and they told me tuner 1’s)

i sold them to a guy on honda-tech for $320 shipped and about 2 weeks later he replied saying that they were skunk2 turbo stage 1 cams and will not work with his setup like he wanted, we came to an arrangement that if he put up a for sale ad and sold them i would cover any difference in costs incase he could not get the full 320 from them

last thursday he sends me an im asking for my address to return them to me, the next day i get an im stating he shipped them out to the address that was on the box (sent via ups)

well last night i get a pm asking if i had recieved them since they said they were recieved on fedex.com, i check my dads house and my place and no package at either location, i proceed to ask what address he shipped to since he had shipped them out before i could get back to him with my address via pm

apparently i still had on file with ups my old address from when i went to wyotech which was 3 years ago and not where i currently live (since i just give them my phone number for my contact information/address)

so now someone at my old address probably has a package with my name on it and has no idea where i live now etc etc and this dude wants a refund for the cams that he sent to the wrong address

what do i do, i have a good reputation on honda-tech etc etc and i dont want him bashing me, but at the same time i did not recieve the cams because he hurried and sent them out without confirming my address

if there is nothing you can do to get the package back since it went to a dif address…oh well. He’s the idiot that decided to not verify anything before sending back. It’s his fault for not waiting for a response. seems that he wanted to send them back as quick as possible, but never stopped to verify any address.

In my opinion…he should be the one that is SOL unless he can somehow track them down and get em back since hes the idiot that send them.

i always make sure to double check with a buyer/seller what the correct address it for issues like this. just my .02

Tell the guy to F off…you have no proof that he sent them back to you.

That blows. Sounds like you accidentally misrepresented what you sold him, then fucked up again when you tried to make good on that.

Obviously you had nothing but good intentions but it kinda seems like you’re liaible. :\

^word. he sent them to the wrong address. it’s his problem. Maybe if whoever recieved them sends them back, then it’s a different story. but until then, its his fault.

and i saw your thread where you were willing to make up the difference of whatever the price was, i was going to buy them but i got my cams super duper cheap

i was confused as to why you were going to give some random guy from georgia 50$ for him selling his cams to someone lol, because i had thought u had tuner1’s as well

edit: if he paid for them via paypal, then he should have sent them to your paypal address? How did he even get the wrong address in the first place?

i dont see how i am liable when he should have checked with me on where to ship them, i am willing to try and make right on this whole ordeal, but i cant shell out $300 because he shipped them to the wrong address

i just want some more opinions and hopefully try to resolve this whole thing

Problem is he didn’t fuck again when he tried to make good on it. If he agreed to a full refund and the guy was to impatient to wait for a reply, how is that his fault?

i think he should be the one to try and track them down…hes the one that sent them. My opinion is to start from there and see if you or him have any luck

this is an ugly one… I would offer to split it down the middle… you each eat half since you’re both at fault for the entire situation.

IMO, you’re liable because you didn’t change your address on paypal. I have done this 2 or 3 times when shipping parts that the buyer has had the wrong address on there but most of the time it was at their old house were they still have all the new home owners information to get ahold of them for instances like this. I never verify if its the correct address with anyone because it is “verified” on paypal and its their fault for not changing it.

Pretty shitty that it happened and you don’t want to tell him to fuck off because of your reputation on there.

BUT, why the hell didn’t he use the address that was on the box that you sent them too him in? That would have your dad’s address on there and shouldn’t have been a problem. I think you should bring that up with him and say the correct address was obviously on the box that you sent the cams too him in and its his fault for using something else to find your address when it was clearly there

No. If he was returning the cams, then he should have waited for brian to send him the money via paypal, and then returned him to the address on the paypal.

why would u send something worth 300$ to someone, who hasnt paid yet, and hasn’t even confirmed an address?

it’s his fault, he fucked up. Like i said, hopefully whoever recieved them sends them back. But i doubt it, seeing as they would have to cover shipping which is probably like 15-20bucks.

Check your old addresses craigslist lol

Go to old house and see if they are there.

He should have insured and required signature on the item, although I dought he’d get coverage but you never know.

You should learn to update your shit, why the eff would you have the wrong return adress? Would have been great if he wasn’t around and FedEx shipped em back to your incorrect house. That is why its there.

Why didn’t you respond to him quicker when he was asking for your stuff.

Bring the signature information from the shipper to the old house and see what showed up, maybe it was a box of marshmallows.

Don’t have any of that stuff? Then you’re both ding bats, and I’d offer to split the difference with him because in reality, either of you could still be trying to screw the other. Does he have a good rep? If so, this is the way to go… you both were goobers.

if he would have sent it to my paypal address it would have been correct, if you read it right you would realize i said it was the address on the box which is my address on file with ups…

whenever i ship something worth decent money i ship via ups and i just drop them off and pay for packaging/shipping so that way its best incase soemthing with insurance needs to be done, i give them my phone #, parts, and money and head on my way, i dont see any label that has my address on it etc so i had no clue it was still my old address from 3 or 4 years ago

the old place is 4 hours away fyi

already explained why the address was not updated as i never look at the tracking labels when i ship through ups, when i ship usps i always right my correct address

he sent the pm asking for my address late on a tues night, and on thur morning shipped the package to what he could “read” off the old box, it just happens to be i didnt get a chance to check his message in that 40 hour period of time.

he did not ship with a signature required so it was just “dropped off”

call old landlord, get tennants name, etc.

Did he insure? If he insured, you have a legitimate claim if you can’t get the package, and they can’t prove it was delivered to you… that is why you insure things.

Still sounds like you’re out at least $150 unless you find the cams IMO.

Ah fuck I read the original post wrong. Alpha Earl I thought you somehow told him to reference your fedex account or whatever, rather than giving him an actual address when he asked for it. I thought that one way or another you gave him the wrong address.

Well now I’m more inclined to say fuck him for shipping them to the wrong address.

I guess I read the OP wrong too. In that case I’d say fuck him for not waiting for you to get back to him to confirm the address

would insurance cover against him shipping to the wrong address, or me moving from that address?

i have no idea if he insured as he is pissed off at me and thinks i am ripping him off and overall is just not happy with how things are going

i can try and get the # to the place i used to rent from but to be honest i really dont remember it

I wouldn’t say it’d cover from the wrong address. I’d say you should handle it with as little detail as possible.

“Hi, my packaged was stated as delivered and I never recieved it”

He is pissed and won’t tell you if he insured it… I hate to think many people will have too much sympathy for him in this situation. Its up to you. It is your karma.

Something similar happened to me.

Bought a GPS unit, it was DOA, so i shipped it with delivery conf, etc.
Went 3 months without refund/or new unit so I filed a chargeback on my credit card.
The day after the chargeback went through he claims he shipped it out. It was delivered but it wasn’t delivered to my apt or signed by me, so he wanted me to refund my chargeback, I laughed.