Oh I found the thread about Sasha…
Here you go: http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=8898
They sound like they’re really bent out of shape about an excellent save eh SE-R?
A couple of sentra guys dont qualify as the whole paddock. No offense.
No, but that was only one example and when the stewards and race officials take offence to some actions, it is not good and I got that right from the stewards. However they didn’t know he was a drifter, they blamed Solo I in general.
As for Jealousy, thats a cheap cop out, yeah, they must be jealous :roll:
Funny how they’re jealous of him and not the Velocity Motorsports Civic (about 200hp) that regularily beats him, Or the team driving the Lexus cars, or the Viper Comp coupes, or the Porches, nope, they’re jealous of the 240…riiiiigh
BTW,“all those times” (your words) Once is a good save, when you get sideways alot it’s time to realize you need to get cornering figured out, and I’ve seen him sideways alot.
And I hate to tell you since you’re obviously an expert, but the exact same thing happens if you go in too hot with a FWD and brake going into the turn, in fact letting off the gas will produce the same result, we have to keep the pedal pretty much pinned going through turn two, four and eight or you’ll see some real sideways action. If you have ever watched Perry I. save his Sentra going through 2, 4 or 8 especially in the rain, you’d know what I am talking about.
And given the number of times I’ve seen Malcolm in the dirt, not sure he qualifies as a good judge of driving skill, or you could ask the vintage guy he hit at the Molson Gran prix…
As for the seat belts, the issue was not in taking them off, it was in trying to go out on track without them on…the Mock grid personel stopped him at the end of the blend line, not in the pits or mock grid, I know, I was there.
For the record, I have no problem with Sasha, anytime I have shared the track with him he has never given me cause to worry, he’s given me room and I’ve given him room. I have no personality issues with either him or Malcolm, both are very nice guys. But if you are going to use them as examples of driving skill they had better be up to the measure. As far as I’m concerned Adam from this board is a great driver, and Marsh is very highly skilled too. If they say something you should believe it.
“I’ll tell you right now, wheel to wheel, competitive racing, and solo 1 at high speeds are harder then solo2. I stick by it, because the speeds your travelling at, the moving obstacles and the tires your maxing out, could put you in the wall at any point.”
“Oh thats the other thing solo 2 doesn’t have… is pressure.”
All I have to say to this is, you need to get out and try one or two of these types of events before commenting. I have done all of them as well as Ice racing and there is as much pressure at a solo II event as any of the others. If you think any of them is harder than solo II then you haven’t tried it, ask Marsh how much stress he was under in each of the Championships he has won. The challenge is different for each of them, but all are hard to do well, as is drifting…
No, but that was only one example and when the stewards and race officials take offence to some actions, it is not good and I got that right from the stewards. However they didn’t know he was a drifter, they blamed Solo I in general.
As for Jealousy, thats a cheap cop out, yeah, they must be jealous :roll:
Funny how they’re jealous of him and not the Velocity Motorsports Civic (about 200hp) that regularily beats him, Or the team driving the Lexus cars, or the Viper Comp coupes, or the Porches, nope, they’re jealous of the 240…riiiiigh
BTW,“all those times” (your words) Once is a good save, when you get sideways alot it’s time to realize you need to get cornering figured out, and I’ve seen him sideways alot.
And I hate to tell you since you’re obviously an expert, but the exact same thing happens if you go in too hot with a FWD and brake going into the turn, in fact letting off the gas will produce the same result, we have to keep the pedal pretty much pinned going through turn two, four and eight or you’ll see some real sideways action. If you have ever watched Perry I. save his Sentra going through 2, 4 or 8 especially in the rain, you’d know what I am talking about.
And given the number of times I’ve seen Malcolm in the dirt, not sure he qualifies as a good judge of driving skill, or you could ask the vintage guy he hit at the Molson Gran prix…
As for the seat belts, the issue was not in taking them off, it was in trying to go out on track without them on…the Mock grid personel stopped him at the end of the blend line, not in the pits or mock grid, I know, I was there.
For the record, I have no problem with Sasha, anytime I have shared the track with him he has never given me cause to worry, he’s given me room and I’ve given him room. I have no personality issues with either him or Malcolm, both are very nice guys. But if you are going to use them as examples of driving skill they had better be up to the measure. As far as I’m concerned Adam from this board is a great driver, and Marsh is very highly skilled too. If they say something you should believe it.
“I’ll tell you right now, wheel to wheel, competitive racing, and solo 1 at high speeds are harder then solo2. I stick by it, because the speeds your travelling at, the moving obstacles and the tires your maxing out, could put you in the wall at any point.”
“Oh thats the other thing solo 2 doesn’t have… is pressure.”
All I have to say to this is, you need to get out and try one or two of these types of events before commenting. I have done all of them as well as Ice racing and there is as much pressure at a solo II event as any of the others. If you think any of them is harder than solo II then you haven’t tried it, ask Marsh how much stress he was under in each of the Championships he has won. The challenge is different for each of them, but all are hard to do well, as is drifting…[/quote]
You got what from the stewards? That a bunch of sentra guys were unhappy because he needed to save? What exactly did you get from the stewards.
Buddy, Sasha never did Solo 1, he went straight from lapping, and drift to GT.
If thats the white civic your talking about the last time I checked he lost to Sasha? So I don’t know what you’re implying about him winning on a constant basis? Because it’s simply not true. I guess you don’t watch very close? Him and the factory Lexus team are identical except the lexus team has money out the ass and a team full of engineers, and Sasha built his car himself. Now he’s chasing the Porsche, and if I know Sasha he’ll catch him too. What are you going to say when he does? Just deny it like everything else?
I know all about FWD oversteer, but the DYNAMICS are different, saving a FWD car and a RWD car are very different, as you are pulled out of a slide with FWD and pushed out with a RWD vehicle. It’s nothing new to me or anyone else here.
You’ve seen Malcolm in the dirt? You’ve never been in there? I guess the fact that those Comp Vipers can’t catch him isn’t a good enough indication of his abilities. Likewise he appears on the top of the podium on a regualr basis. Guess that says nothing eh? First place means nothing, staying out of the gravel does though? Please, you simply must be kidding.
Wheel to wheel driving accidents happen. When you’re pushing stuff happens. Thats a reality.
I’ve done both, I know both, and nothing says pressure like personal injury, or damaging your investment all that on top of winning. Solo 2 in a championship, yeah I could understand the pressure of winning, but thats it. It still doesn’t compare.
Why should I believe anything Marsh has to say? Because you tell me to? Or because he’s the director of Solo 2?
All I’m basing him on right now, is him blindly protecting his sport which I would expect out of someone like you but not out of an official like him. Because the assumption that Applesauce was drifting was clearly re enforce by the car he was driving, which is profiling…
You know I see it from the police but never from other enthusiasts. Anyone under the age of 25 with a 240 is a drifter. Nice guys.
And one more thing, most guys here have tryed most racing type events you could think up, so chances are if you’re about to say “Maybe you should try it” I can almost garuntee I have."
I dont know what your problem is, but show me something where a steward, an offcial, or someone in authority has said something offensive about Sasha and his style of driving besides some sentra guys.
Sounds like you guys are the only ones with the problem.
If you read the post I said the stewards blamed Solo I because it was their belief thats where he came from, I pointed out to them that he had taken the MCO race school.
You seem fixated on him getting sideways, that is not the major problem the Stewards spoke of, the belts issue at Shannonville was the primary issue, and if you don’t think having your belts done up for a race start is important I know a few drivers that can tell you otherwise from experience
Your Quote:
“If thats the white civic your talking about the last time I checked he lost to Sasha? So I don’t know what you’re implying about him winning on a constant basis? Because it’s simply not true. I guess you don’t watch very close? Him and the factory Lexus team are identical except the lexus team has money out the ass and a team full of engineers, and Sasha built his car himself. Now he’s chasing the Porsche, and if I know Sasha he’ll catch him too. What are you going to say when he does? Just deny it like everything else?”
As for the Civic
here are the results: Time of race
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=353266
Barc GP
Scott Nicol 1:25:04
Sasha 1:25:44 40 Sec behind
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=353266
DAC TRillium Races
Scott nicol 59:56
Sasha DNF
Barc Canadian Touring Trophy
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=385742
Race 6
Scott nicol 21:11
Sasha 21:01 that’s one
race 11
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=385743
Scott Nicol 41:25
Sasha 41:54
CRDA Shootout
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=329831
Scott Nicol 1:02:26
Sasha 1:02:49
Bemc Spring trophy
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=312888
Race 5
Scott Nicol 20:59
Sasha 23:20
Race 9
http://mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=312890
Scott Nicol 42:16
Sasha 42:51
Hmm…one race out of 7 ahead of the civic does not have Sasha beating the civic all the time :roll:
Ok lets look at Lap times
Sasha averages1:35 at Mosport and a 1:16 at Shannonville
Scott gets 1:34 at Mosport and 1:14 at Shannonville
the Lexus gets 1:32’s at Mosport and 1:13 at Shannonville
I don’t see 2 sec off the Lexus as being “identical” or 1 sec slower than the civic being “winning”
I posted the links, check them yourself
BTW the Porsche ran 1:32’s as well and the Lexus could not keep up.
you could look at Qualifying at the Barc Touring trophy where the Lexus ran a 1:31 and Sasha ran a 1:35…hmmm 4 sec…still not close, apparantly I’m not the one not paying attention. I guess you’ll have an excuse for that too huh?
Your quote:
You’ve seen Malcolm in the dirt? You’ve never been in there? I guess the fact that those Comp Vipers can’t catch him isn’t a good enough indication of his abilities. Likewise he appears on the top of the podium on a regualr basis. Guess that says nothing eh? First place means nothing, staying out of the gravel does though? Please, you simply must be kidding.
Yeah, that’s pretty much right, if you spend a lot of time in the gravel, you may want to rethink you’re driving style, you have to finish to win, everybody goes off from time to time, but if you go off three times in a 20 min race, and I’ve seen him do exactly that at shannonville, you might need to get ahold of yourself. And that goes for hitting cars in a vintage race at the Molson Grand Prix, which should put Malcolm on the probation list. There’s a big difference between a good driver and a good racer.
Your quote:
“I’ve done both, I know both, and nothing says pressure like personal injury, or damaging your investment all that on top of winning. Solo 2 in a championship, yeah I could understand the pressure of winning, but thats it. It still doesn’t compare.”
Sounds more like you are describing fear, and yes there’s not much to fear in Solo II, and if you are afraid in road racing you should probably quit.
Post your Solo I event results, Solo II results and road race results.
My road race results are up there in the T2 category, I’ll post 4 years of Solo II regional results and Solo I results if you like, Ice race too.
Your quote:
"I dont know what your problem is, but show me something where a steward, an offcial, or someone in authority has said something offensive about Sasha and his style of driving besides some sentra guys.
Sounds like you guys are the only ones with the problem."
Actually most of the Sentra guys like Perry like Sasha…hell Perry’s probably spent more time sideways at Mosport in his Sentra than Sasha ever will. Nothing “offensive” was said, only that his conduct in race events has been questioned. Like I said though, if you actually walk around the paddock you will hear more versions than what you preach, is it in writing…no…but if you come to the track I can point out some that have had issues with both Malcolm and Sashas driving…there are many others that cause issues on the track, including Sentra drivers, but since you put them on the pedestal…
How can you even compare Sasha’s average lap times? As I said before, when his car is healthy he performs better then the rest of his class. I think out of the 7 races he was only healthy for 1 with the exception of the last run at Mosport running 10 psi only.
Not here to make an excuse but the last time his car ran healthy he wont the enduro. In fact that same day so did Malcolm.
Malcolm isn’t a good racer? Because of a collision? When was the last time you drove something with 500hp and no power steering/brakes? Shit happens.
Fear? Yeah you should be a little afraid, because if you aren’t afraid you’re too comfortable and probably a danger to everyone else. Or you’re not pushing all that hard.
You’re going to sit here and tell me you don’t feel the least bit of fear when you race? Then you’re probably driving like a pussy.
If you watched the Lexus and Sasha race head to head, you would have a better idea then just simply listing off stats on the website vs. the actual racing.
Here’s the thing, he has consistency problems due to mechanical failure, but when he doesn’t he places very well. Now besides the fact that you can’t seem to respect anyone except yourself or Marsh as a driver, even if it’s almost impossible to deny, like in Malcolms case, it’s clear to me that you have a problem with him for whatever reason.
I dont know why he tried to get on the track without his belt done up, I haven’t had a chance to ask, and clearly I don’t condone it, but there was most likely a reason, no matter how worng it is.
But I’ll tell you what you what, the next time I’m out there, let me know who has the problem, and what the problem is, I’ll talk to them myself and find out why.
But besides you, I heard only one complaint from the blue corrado and that was Sasha’s first race on mosport and he had the jitters. After that the corrado couldn’t keep up. Even better, have these people email me or give me their emails, I’d love to hear it from their mouths what issue they have.
Because everyone I talk to or that talks to us doesn’t seem to have any problem with us, and likewise have no problem with them.
I guess if everyone would rather talk shit about Sasha without actually confronting him with a legitimate concern I can see how it might be an issue…
It’s not an excuse it’s a legit reason. Reliability is a problem in racing, especially if time and funds are tight.
If you’re not nervous or a little scared at all, then you aren’t pushing hard enough. Period. You’re simply going through the paces.
You’re right, Sasha got up beside Andrew on the second lap and then proceeded to back off to conserve fuel and not push his car for the full enduro because it probably wouldn’t have lasted. Strategy over lap times. I believe Andrew didn’t win in his class and Sasha did, regardless of lap times.
Guess the stats don’t tell the whole story, just the fastest laps and the averages.
Adam H is a fine driver, but you seem to have forgotten that the prfiling isn’t of 45 year old males who have been racing Solo for years. It’s the kids breaking into the scene under 25 that get profiled, like Sasha, and Ed, and everyone else. Of course the older guys don’t get hassled, they’ve been doing it for 20 years. New guy steps out and he gets hasseled for being a drifter.
Abusive? No, I want to hear it from them rather then from you. I could say that people in the paddock arent a fan of you. Is it true? Who knows? Next time you hear someone complain or express concern, do everyone a favor and tell him to go chat with Sasha, rather then blow hot air, and soil his reputation.
You don’t have a problem with him? Fine, if your buddies do, tell them to be a man and take it up with Sasha, rather then spew slander about him behind his back. You don’t have to be mean or arrogant, just make a suggestion, and I’m sure he can explain himself.
That guy in the corrado, did just that, and his concern was legit, and Malcolm and Sasha made it pretty clear he was a little jittery and apollogized, and the corrado guy understood. Why it’s so difficult to understand I don’t know.
I guess they all drove onto the track and set records in their first season and never had a learning curve of any sort.
I take back what I said about everyone being cool at the track. I guess the people you meet and associate with, and people who actually would like to see you grow as a racer and perform at a higher level are the good people. Then you have the others who for whatever reason always have a problem, but never do anything to fix it. Guess it’s no different in racing.
Clearly we were talking about a different race.
The stats don’t tell the whole story. They never do. They don’t lie but they don’t show the whole picture either.
The only thing I’ve fought is the unjust treatment of the young guys who race their 240s, who are immediately treated as though they aren’t welcome because they most likely drift.
Then we got onto the subject of GT racing, where you made the statement that Sasha and Malcolm aren’t as well liked as I thought. The reason being because no one who seems to have a problem with them will ever step up and express their concern but would rather talk behind their backs as such and lead them to believe everything is great.
Then we got off the subject about how solo 2 is garbage. Probably because cone dodging is boring, non-exciting, and the tradeoff for time on the course vs wait time is terrible.
Go back a couple pages and you’ll realize most people agree…
Not everyone likes a good driver, or a good racer, just because one guy disagrees based on a snood comment like “He thought it was a drift session” doesn’t mean they aren’t good at what they do.
Their skills speak for themselves, regardless of whether they are liked or not.
Post up Malcolms times compared to the next closest racer. Seeing as he really isn’t that good by your standards.
Read: No one cares about Solo 2 except you cone dodgers. The point I’m makiking is that it’s a waste of time, and it’s not exciting… at all…
I thought you said stats don’t mean tell the whole story?
I’ll post Malcolms if you post yours
How old are you again??
Well isn’t that a different tune.
Ok, don’t bother posting up his laps, I’ll just have him do it when he gets a chance…
Hey, I just want to see if someone with such vast knowledge of what it’s like to sit in the seat of a racecar has any actual experience…but I’m guessing he can’t, you at least can…
He’s mis read, and misdirected everything I’ve said without anything to back himself up…I can wait
Mine or yours?
Keep in mind that Andrew W. basically is factory sponsored and his car makes an additional 15hp to Sasha’s car…
Apparently Sasha is second place in his class, regardless of his mechanical failures and at the botto mof the chart, set the lap record time on SMP long section…
http://www.casc.on.ca/uploadedFiles/tgt081506060815165742.pdf
You’re right, guess he’s not very fast…
Yep, thought so, well if you do come up with some, let me know…
Now you can wait? So can I…