did you get my pm? read it.
I just read it right before u posted here LOL
THANKS SO MUCH!!!
I definitely will fight it, because I’m being framed for everything other than the “operating unsafe vehicle” charge.
Please do let me know of the other member’s name. Thanks in advance!!
browntown and polar and right
i would not have signed the pick slips and asked wat my other option was
i wonder what would have happened in that situation
isn’t there a petition for these laws, because the already disbanded the law about the limit on number of teenagers in one car by a petition on facebook
how is this law still in effect for over a year now when it is clearly bs
The thing is at the current time, this law is still fairly new, it is being enforced when even the cops handing them out don’t fully understand what they are doing, and as of yet there is no appeal so you really don’t have a choice, the fact of the matter is he was going to take your car and license no matter what you did so do not dwell on this, just fight it now. when they hand you a stunt driving charge they have 3 options, Stunt driving by way of excessive speed, racing or careless driving. The fact that he gave you speeding but made no mention of speeding to you is KEY, you need to document all of this and get a good lawyer, he might be able to fix all this for you at the first appearance, but you need a solid case. For example you cannot simply say “The officer discussed with me the option to tow my car home using the tow truck they provide” This will not hold up because the OPP does not provide a tow service, they just put out a call saying they need a tow and then companies rush to grab your money. There is no fee to have your license re instated. what you will have to do is build a case that is stronger then the officers notes, because they will take the officers word over yours, so when you say the things about the towing they will say “we notified the defendant that he had been charged with stunt driving” They do not have to tell you anything other then that, it’s assumed you know the law…
newstar: they might be able to charge “obstruction of police”, which is a criminal charge. Even tho it won’t hold in court, it is a hassle. But, it might be better than losing close to $1000 immediately due to impounding and tow fees.
browntown: they didn’t charge me anything to do with speeding. They did Stunt driving by way of Racing. The cop wasn’t gonna pay for my tow when he said he will get a tow truck to tow it to my home… it was because he won’t let me use my friend’s CAA.
Anyone have any recommendation of Proven GOOD LAWYERS?
I understand the speed part, but what I’m saying is it sounds like he should have charged you with stunting by way of careless driving, racing is the worst of the 3 options and you need to get that off your record.
we post like this because us “VETERENS” have seen pretty much everything go on, on this site. Every one has a right to post about your situation, why ? because you asked. What do u think is going to happen when u drive a car that is not legit to drive and get pulled over. What if you hit a kid and killed somebody or even got in an accident regardless of the fact of the “racing” or not. I love how the newer/younger people of this board have a “ITS NOT MY FAULT I DIDNT FOLLOW THE LAW” attitude. It blows me away how eveybody wants to pass the buck and make it somebody elses fault.
dont get me wrong if you were doing nothing wrong then i hope u get it all sorted out, but from what your saying , it dont look good
think what u want about the veterens, but i dont see them in the situations you are in !!
farmer
I love how the newer/younger people of this board
Don’t speak for everyone now…
I consider myself a newer member cause of the extensive history of SON… Even though I’m going on being here for a year and participated in many SON-related events. Let’s just not generalize =(
nthn wrong with bashing u, its a forum. wen kids do something wrong. their parents yell at them. did we hit u? we all suggested u get lawyer. that is the only advice needed.
and if ur car has no wipers. what if it rains?snows? someone splash water on ur car? can u drive safely? no. i repeat, ppl dont get stopped and ticketed for no reason. be it a loud exhaust or a light bulb out…even as simple as not signalling with ur attention grabber…
anyways everyone HERE at son240 HOPES and PRAYS u get what u deserve meaning the rightful ticket of unsafe vehicle or lesson learned. we all are on your side in terms of vs the cops and hoping u get ur car back. we arent a community where we hate on ppl and only point and laugh at ppl downfalls. we actually ALL been through it or seen it. some ppl i know got more then 15tickets on their 240s from cop car-profiling. gl with court. and nthn wrong with civics. u car profile as hard as cops do lol.
jpod, you’ve been here for 1 year. You’re still a rookie. So respect your elders if you want respect.
Exactly, you should’ve just got your car towed. It’s winter… what if it started snowing and you had no wipers and no horn and you were still on summer tires. That’s pretty dangerous in my opinion. Summer tires are pretty much useless in this weather / temperature.
That’s the issue. You drove your car when it was unsafe. You also happened to be unlucky enough to be pulled over for “Not doing anything” and that just made the situation even worse.
Huh? I was stating that someone shouldn’t generalize the new population of SONlings as ALL speeders/racers/idiots/morons/not too smart/think “It’s not my fault I didn’t follow the law”.
Just because I’ve been on a WEBSITE for a year or less doesn’t mean I’m any of the above. That’s my point. And when you’re simply (you = anyone of the age) one or 2 or even 3 years older than me, it doesn’t automatically mean I should bow before you or kiss your ass or deal with what you said simply because you said it. I’m still a person, who thinks for himself.
I wasn’t trying to cause an argument/insult. I was just saying I guess implicitly that some people on son (no, not Farmer even though I quoted him) have a serious ego/e-peen issue and need to understand that this is a website and we’re all REAL people, and your time on this site doesn’t mean you’re any less of a person.
Things like that recent incident you had, Mark, is what shows whether a person is a decent person or a moron. Not when you signed up for a website or are 2 years younger than someone. Age is a number. It’s also quite circumstantial in terms of what you’ve “experienced” within those years.
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Take it easy Farmer. I wasn’t even talking about u. And neither was I not admitting fault for driving a bait car without a horn and wiper arms. Take it easy on the generalization. So u think that my car should have been impounded and my license suspended for my crime of not having a horn or wiper arms? LOL
Come on Farmer. Are u telling me that u had never been booked before for charges that r too harsh or simply unfair? Its not impossible… but u have to understand, bullshit charges does happen to a lot of ppl too.
Farmer, I thought u were going to leave the scene when u were trying to sell the RBed S13… I don’t remember exactly, but I think u told me that u were trying to save money to move out or get married or something along those lines? What happened?
And for ur record, as far as I can tell we are about the same age. I just never bothered to sign up for an account until recently.
I agree. I was a newbie when I first joined the site. Experience comes with age. You will realise that in a few years. But that’s the way society is.
Quick example would be trying to get insurance when you’re 17. Why should it cost you $4000 a year when they don’t even know how you are as a driver?
Same thing goes here, it takes time to prove yourself and eventually your “insurance rates” go down as well.
And I know why Brandon did what he did. He lost all respect on this board, and obviously that meant something to him. So he probably thought that by coming to my house and “kicking my ass”, he’d get some respect because a lot of people here don’t like me. But in the end, it backfired on him.
Mark, Season and Farmer… I agree, this is a public forum where every one has a right to post whatever. Its all good.
Season, I don’t even think u said anything remotely offensive. And you’re right. I’ve posted like 5 times already in this thread, I know its a stupid idea to try to take my car home for storage via driving, even though I planned it by choosing the warmest day out of the week which had no chance of raining during the day. It doesn’t justify shit tho, I should have gotten it towed. But still, ppl are not supposed to lose $5000 for mistakes such as this.
i was going to leave the scene, but i have a passion for nissans , I currently have a s13 drift car , a 600hp skyline on its way from japan, and my gf supports me and what i do,
I am not pointing a finger at you at all, i am stating a fact that this stuff is more commom as of late and by members who are newer to the board.
I am more knowledgeable of the laws than most of the ppl on this board, with the traffic act, and all law in general. I have worked for private security comanies and had my share of run-ins with the law, i have even been asked to leave a city and not come back due to my past acts. I know for a fact that if charges like in your case are handed out then there has to be reason for this and just cause. As much as police can hand out bogus tickets , they have to answer for thier actions also, without just cause there is no charge.
I hope you can beat this thing, unfortunatly hind sight is 20/20 and a tow would have been better. but with all the hype around these cars and everybody itching to hand out tickets as of late , it seems like common scense
thats all
I have a good lawyer on retainer and if you have issues with finding a lawyer , let me know
farmer
he gave you the wrong charge anyway
the correct charge WOULD have been
- Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to cause some or all of its tires to lose traction with the surface of the highway while turning."
and not
- Driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to spin it or cause it to circle, without maintaining control over it.
But even then, this is the WRONG application of the law. You weren’t drifting. You weren’t doing donuts. The cop misused the law - as many have done before and as many will continue to do until this law is repealed.
This is, of course, assuming you are telling the whole truth and not conveniently forgetting some incriminating part of the story.
You’re fucked out of at least the impound and towing fees. Don’t expect to get that money back.
But it sounds like you have a solid chance of totally getting off on the S.172 charges (the stunting and/or racing).
It’s clear this cop (or his partner who counseled him) was a fuckn douchebag who had idea how to properly enforce this section of the law.
Talk to a lawyer asap.
This car was by “Garge Werks” (Ryan) that close up shop? you got pull over on Kennedy?
That sounds crappy and not to mention how many pricks on this sight. From what you’ve said it was clearly a new cop trying to be big; it being the end of the month and all trying to get a crazy quota. From what I have been threw with the courts is, it really doesn’t matter if u have proof or not it’s hard to beat a cop’s word against yours. In this situation lawyers help and other wise only look forward to lessening the charge. Good luck.
^its the begining of the month…