:mamoru: Keep staring at that until it stops making sense. Then go tear up Grahm-Leach-Bliley in a fit of epiphany-induced rage. :tup:
At least the military bids out their contracts to private companies who do have a bottom line to answer for.
I’d be cool with with government shutting down the post office and letting FedEx and UPS and any other private company that wanted a shot at it put in bids.
lmao is it rly? Because ina free market those funds wouldnt have been made available and the inflaton wouldnt have been there to assist them and rob from us. And of course lehman brothers, wamu and other companies like them are going to blame the free market lol. They need a scapegoat, they will never say its their fault or the fault of the fed because they need the bailouts ot keep coming. You actually think we saw the end of the bailouts? They have to keep bailing them out. Its the result of the devaluaton of our currency. Try asking hayek, or misses or rothbard if they think its the fault of the free market.
in a true free market every sector ends up a monopoly because without regulation the market leaders crush the competition and put up barriers to entry too big to overcome.
Like WalMart?
nooooooo monopolies occur from neverending cash flow. And since ive come to grips with the fact that you are in a defense mechanism state known as repression when it comes to using actual sound money practices, ie, gasp the gold standard, or atleast a fractional reserve gold standard, i will not get into it. But the fact remains, that in a free market, using money that is worth its weight, the money itself is a check on the agression of ruthless and illegal business practices.
Meh, classical vs. keynesian economics, agree to disagree
true as well, everyone has their flaws as well do the schools of thought that they support. I just like to try to shed light on the fact that many people are mistaking the free market for something that its not. I know that you undertsnad this as well obviously but sometimes its imposible to get it though to some people because they think bloomberg tv is always right.
About to pass committee 14-9 with the Democrats plus Snowe :tup:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9BABH200
By actually considering it, she was able to get a lot of her concerns addressed…something the other 39 assholes in her caucus could learn from instead of burying their heads in the sand and jumping to a foregone “No.”
Now the real fun starts…we merge the House bill, with the robust Public Option, with the moderate Senate bill. Let’s see what stays and what goes.
I agree health care could use some changes, but I’m still against universal health care.
Medicaid and medicare are good but only when used for its purpose, hard times, disabled, etc… The people who abuse it are the ones that make it worse for everyone else :gotme:
Good thing no one proposed universal healthcare then 
They better not include veterinarian bills in this! :jays:
I assume by classical you mean austrian.
Unfortunately Keynesian is just a failed experiment that hasn’t finished yet.
Only time will really tell.
Yep, it failed our way out of the Great Depression and it is going to fail our way out of this.
Theory > Evidence. Duh.
Fuck half the people in this thread.
Healthcare wouldn’t be so fucking expensive if doctors didn’t have to worry about getting sued by every prick they even THINK about touching looking for some kind of a free fucking handout!
You think YOUR insurance is expensive?
Go fuck yourself and ask a doctor what HE has to pay to protect himself from YOU.
All of us will really be fucked when the private industry becomes public, and no longer has any money nor will power to develop new treatments. [Gee whiz… Money may be the devil, but its also the reason things advance! No money? Those rich healthcare pricks will just turn into the lazy cocksuckers that breed so well in this country…] And you want to talk about inefficient? Look at ANY Govt. run program, they do such a fantastic job of running things. If you want to overhaul the industry and put leashes on it, FINE, I am all for it. But to force everyone into a joke of a program? Give me a break… just another example of Robin Hood syndrome.
:highfive: well said :tup:
I don’t know any other debate where the main points of one side are all arguing against something that isn’t even in question. The whole other side is arguing against something that isn’t even an option or part of the proposal. By your logic, I can argue against anyone eating apples because eating too much red meat is bad for you. This plan has NOTHING TO DO with socialized universal healthcare. If you don’t like that, fine, argue about it when that’s up for debate.
You guys still haven’t answered how the public option is going to be so ridiculously inefficient and wasteful, yet still provide such a good value that it drives private insurers out of business.
Because it is government supplemented? The money being wasted will be tax dollars…
If company A is private and B is gov. supplemented:
B is less efficient and costs more money to run per quality of service but charges less because the price is lowered through the use of tax dollars.
A is more efficient, yet costs more because there is no supplementing by the tax payers.
Which insurance do you take? The cheaper on that your paying for through taxes anyway or the more expensive one?
BTW: the great depression ended because we killed off a large portion of the workforce and blew up a shit load of stuff, while coming out of the war with half the worlds GDP because every other industrial nation was turned to rubble. Your argument is invalid.