So who or what is the average pittsburgher? Are you the average Pittsburgher? The Average Pittsburgher has gone away. If you aren’t educated in today’s world, you fall by the wayside. Unless you come up with a novel business or idea then you can make something of yourself. Everyone has the chance to go out and get an Education. Technology is here and redilly available. Down Town is actually very clean compared to a lot of cities. Every city has it’s bad parts. Everyone that i have run into here in NC that has been to Pittsburgh love it. there is an attraction to pittsburgh. The View from Mt. Washington alone brings people in. Gets voted #2 view in the country every year.
If you hate it so bad, MOVE!!! Take your tradition and go to Fayette county and start your own city. Plenty of room there and I think you will fit in well there.
again… i dont care or live in other cities. the benchmark should be against itself. Downtown is NOT a clean place compared to a clean place! i dont hate it… i hate that people dont give a shit about the real problems. I live and work in the city, many in this thread do not. they only see what they want. out of the problems i mentioned the roads are the only ones that effect me. i’m not out for myself, i thinking about whats good for the city residents as a whole. the suburbanites love to come to the city and use its resources and just turn a blind eye to what its like in the 88 neighborhoods. take a problem like Mccardle roadway…pittsburghs solution is to block it off for 4 years then re-open it with metal plates over the holes. No where to park in oakland? lets take away several hundred parking places and put in a merry-go round and some benches when a fuckin park is about 200 yards across a bridge. zip cars…what a grand failure. i could keep going. love the city hate its politics and leadership and direction.
I will only go up in there when they can have table games,my buddy has cherry masters and i see how they can be turned from 50% payout to 85% payout!! So untill that happens there are still plenty of no limit hold em games every day of the week with $2500 sitting there at a 10 man table!!
I’ve been really fighting the urge to get involved with this but rocketman you’re argument only gets worse. So I’ll add to the fire and most likely not bother to read any of your posts… because they already make little to no sense to me, but maybe it’s just me after all I did use my blue collar job to work my way through college to get a semi-white collar job but would rather be working a blue collar labor job most days.
How are you going to compare something to itself? It defeats the point of comparison. Now if you compare it to itself at another time, that’s another story. How does Pittsburgh compare to 10 yrs ago? 20 years ago? 50 years ago or even 100 years ago?
My toilet is clean, and even when compared to itself it’s still clean. It’s definitely cleaner than any toilet downtown, but then again my driveway and garage are also cleaner than any parking lot downtown? I hope to say the same for anyone’s home.
Have you ever left Pittsburgh? Have you seen a truely dirty city?
My wife has been working downtown for two and half years now, and still enjoys being downtown. She spends most nice weather days walking and shopping (wish I could slow the second) and is proud to work in the city. She feels safe and that is clean, especially compared to the other cities she has spent time working and traveling in. Granted that doesn’t make us want to move out of suburbia and into the city, in fact we are already planning our next move to take us further out in search of a better school district.
Anyways, my point is just that you are making less and less sense, you can compare an apple to an apple, but you can’t compare an apple to the same apple. It’s not a comparison it’s a description. At the end of the day the Casino’s long term effect will be increased revenues into the city which will trickle down to public works and as well as other sectors.
ya really. we got a little sidetracked in a small town in delaware on our way to the beach because we wanted to drive on the bay bridge and tunnel.
talk about dirty…
its not only DOWNTOWN…thats what i mean… people work downtown but what about all the other areas of the city where people live that a lot of you have no clue about. I understand that detroit and philly are shit holes but does that i mean i should be happy that pittsburgh isnt as big a dump as those places? NO. thats what i mean about comparing it to itself. put a mirror infront of the city to see whats wrong with it to fix itself regardless if it was already better than some worse place or not.
As far as down town…you can stay up near grant street and think downtown is great… take a walk to market sq or down by any bus stop on liberty and tell me is looks and smells cleans and that you are feel you are safe while a drug deal happens in front of you.
i’ve been to NYC, Philly, buffalo, indy…yes… all bigger shitholes than pittsburgh but like nyc has like 11 million people… i dont even think pittsburgh isnt even pushin 300k anymore. There’s no excuse for some of the crap when u look at it that way.
Then go to a City counsel meeting instead of bitching about it here on Pittspeed . Nobody here is going to be able to do anything about it anyhow .
Cities like NYC and Philly have a lot of people that live in the downtown area. Not many people live right in downtown. There’s like 2.7 million in the metro area though.
Vacant Downtown storefronts dressed up for summit
Thursday, August 13, 2009
By Jon Schmitz, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The Pittsburgh Downtown Partnership today will begin installing the first of more than 30 graphic “makeovers” to vacant Downtown storefronts to improve their appearance for the G-20 economic summit.The first storefronts to be treated are at 925 and 927 Penn Ave., a short distance from the David L. Lawrence Convention Center, where the Sept. 24-25 summit will be centered.
The partnership said seven images have been developed to depict the strengths of Pittsburgh and will remain in place after the summit.
Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09225/990633-100.stm#ixzz0O5Mmp0L1
great they are doing this but why did it need to take g20 to get it done. its like putting up a guard rail after 5 cars drive off a hillside. Where are the efforts into getting a business in to those storefronts? i’m sure it will look nice but again…not looking for band aid fixes but real solutions.
The government can only do so much man. I’m volunteering my time to help the city out and clean shit up, I posted the link for info on how you can do the same… Haven’t seen you reply to that yet.
i’m a volunteer for a mayoral canidate.
back on topic…
whats this charging for parking bullshit?
I’m heading down to the casino tonight to check it out. Anyone else gonna be there?
do any good?
Might be heading down to check it out tonight for something different while the parking is free. If they start charging for parking whatever it may be I won’t be back. I rarely go downtown when I have to pay parking.
ya wtf is up with that? I heard it going to be $50 parking if you spend under $80 at the casino…
then I also heard that it will be free but $50 parking if you spend under $80 at the casino ( during events like steeler games, pirate games, etc )
I dunno what is true
you’re retarded. nobody AT ALL would park there FOR ANYTHING if it was $50
May not be so far fetched… This is Pittsburgh we’re talking about.
Nope, got taken for $140. It was a quick disposal of my money too. I do not believe they set them to pay out more. I got robbed.
My girl only fed the machines $40 but was some how playing for a lot longer than me too.