Corker roasts Trump
Someone just threw Russian flags at Trump and McConnell. Amazing. Video in link below.
Edit - For lolz
Everyone stopped calling it collusion and started calling it opposition research nowā¦
Today CNN is all like, āWhatās Russia? Is there a story there? We have no interest anymore.ā
Are you guys referring to the Clinton involvement in funding the dossier?
Clinton and the DNC. Plus some unnamed Republican (Jeb Bush, 10 bucks says it Jeb) who funded it during the primary before the Dems took over funding it. The DNC spent $9 million on it and so far theyāre hoping we believe no one higher than some local schmuck had any idea what it was about. Hillary, no idea. Debbie Blabbermouth, no idea. Hillaryās campaign spokesman Fallon, no idea, but he did pull a little CYA by saying he didnāt know what Clinton did or didnāt know.
Hillary fucking knew. Thereās no way she didnāt.
They arenāt any better. We all know that. Itās nice to see the DNC getting some heat over the same tactics they try holding over other peopleās heads but to be fair, collusion isnāt illegal. (And I said that about the Trump team as well.)
Why canāt all these fuckbags get voted out and we just start from scratch?
Collusion isnāt. Putting it down on your political donation disclosures as ā9 million dollars in legal feesā when you actually spent it on a dossier being prepared by someone in another country however is very illegal.
The way itās being handled in the press is the most disgusting thing though. Trump Jr meets with a Russian woman, no money, intel or favors trade hands, and the press runs non stop coverage of it for weeks. The DNC and Hillary actually pay $9 million dollars for a dossier prepared by a foreign entity, that money is hidden as ālegal feesā to subvert campaign finance laws, and the press is like , āmeh, not really a storyā.
True. I hope SOMEONE is actually held accountable for it. You wonāt see me defending these people.
I also donāt think for a second that the Trump team avoided breaking laws. How many disclosures were missed with Kushner, Flynn, etc. They need to be held accountable for what theyāre doing as well.
^ If they broke the law definitely. With the number of leaks and 99% of the MSM digging at every thread they can find Iām pretty sure if any of team Trump legit broke the law someone would be charged by now though.
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Itās a lot easier to stay legit when you spend $66 million of your own money, super pacs only kick in 85 million and donāt have to figure out how to funnel almost 1.2 billion into your campaign legally.
I need to correct you on this. The yet unnamed Republican didnāt fund the dossier, they hired Fusion GPS for opo research on Trump. Itās only AFTER the DNC and Hillary campaign got involved ($$$) was the dossier created by Steele.
Itās an important distinction that some in the media are ignoring to blame both sides.
Today, the FBI to Trump: āYou know that Obama wanted to release the JFK files, right?ā
Looks like it was the Washington Free Beacon who initially hired Fusion GPS. And they had nothing to do with the dossier. Again, the dossier work was started under the DNCās & Hillaryās $$$.
All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
I know you guys are busy with Hillary and all, butā¦
Paul Manafort, President Trumpās former campaign chairman, has been told to surrender to federal law enforcement authorities, according to several news outlets, in an apparent new phase of the investigations into figures from Trumpās inner circle.
Surprised no one posted this. If I had to guess, Iād say itās due to other illicit activity that he was involved in and not necessarily as part of the campaign activity. . We should know the actual charge by the end of the day.
Side note: On Friday, while every other news outlet was reporting this, Sean Hannity had the exclusive breaking story about āLet There Be Lightā opening in theaters. :lol:
^ Itās been a top story on foxnews.com since it broke. Itās the headline story now that Manafort and Gates names have been released.
Theyāve got them on tax evasion, which is the easiest target, so clearly theyāre hoping to cut deals for someone higher up in the campaign. If there was legit Russian collusion my money is on Manafort knowing about it so weāll have to see where this goes. My guess is they donāt touch Trump.
Jay, you donāt have to defend fox news. It was just funny to see them stay on such a garbage story while every single other news outlet moved to the Manafort story. They are biased too, ya know.
Source on tax evasion? Looks way more serious than just that:
The Justice Department charged Donald Trumpās former campaign chairman and a top aide with āconspiracy against the United States,ā āconspiracy to launder moneyā and other charges on Monday morning.
Edit - Better source:
Paul J. Manafort, Jr., of Alexandria, Va., and Richard W. Gates III, of Richmond, Va., have been indicted by a federal grand jury on Oct. 27, 2017, in the District of Columbia. The indictment contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. The case was unsealed on Oct. 30, 2017, after the defendants were permitted to surrender themselves to the custody of the FBI.
But donāt worry, foxnews.com made their headline: āPaul Manafort, top aide, charged with money laundering, other counts in Russia collusion probeā :lol:
Now if I was one of the Trump circle jerkers, Iād post something cool like crickets.
But Iām not, so; What do you guys think about this? The charges on conspiracy are way beyond what I was expecting. Not to mention Gates stayed with the campaign and was part of the inaugural committee. There was smoke. Now thereās fire. Was the raid on Manafortās house still a distraction/nothingburger?
The interesting part is that it goes back to 2006. Iām wondering how much activity took place then versus during the campaign. Either way, Manafort and Gates are fucked.
And top it off with the George Papadopoulos story. This is a shit show.
Iāll admit this is pretty serious. I still donāt think it will reach Trump because the stuff theyāre looking at is pre-Trump. Clearly theyāre hoping to leverage that for something that gets them a bigger fish though.
Iāve also been swamped today at work so this is the first chance Iāve had to even hit NYSpeed since this morning. Havenāt had time to read anything about the indictment either (was honestly hoping there would be more discussion here to look at first).
I donāt think we donāt know the details yet on whether or not Manafort and Gates weāre involved in illegal activity during the campaign, but Iām going to guess that they were. (Unless thereās something I missed that shows they werenāt.)
The statement from Papadopoulos also talks about his communication with Russian officials and specifically saying not to have DT himself come to meetings because of the risk. I really hope we learn more soon.
Iāve maintained this position for a while but Iāll repeat it;
Thereās nothing wrong with the ACTUAL republican platform, but Donald Trump is not the right guy to lead a political party let alone a nation.
Manifort was only brought on to the Trump campaign for the convention because of his experience at conventions and getting his clients the nomination, then he was out.
To go from this: https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download ā¦ which does not mention Trump, or the 2016 election at all, to the conclusion that āthis looks bad for Trumpā is quite the jump.
Seriously, read that indictment and tell me what part of it has anything to do with Trump.
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Again, read the indictment. This charge is a catch-all for counts 3 through 6 and 10 though 12 which are failing to file over $10,000 in financial interests involving more that $100,000 in 12 months. And for lying about it.
This does NOT mean āOMG there was a conspiracy between Trump and the Russians!ā