With the popularity of drifting rising and the car companies focusing on making the next greatest sports car in the world. I think if I worked for a major car manufactorer I would definitely make another RWD sport compact, 4cyl turbo car. Enough of these $45, 000 sports cars (new camaro, STI, Mustang GT), these cars cater to a very small demograhic (30-40yrld male, probably not married that makes more than $50,000). Why not design something fun to drive for the 20 somethings that’s RWD, we’ve had enough of the civics, cobalts, neons etc.
I agree only expensive cars have FR now a days…it sucks…i wonder what made the automotive companys just always make FF cars, its kinda why i dont like any new cars i dunno my brain is just like …wierd to understand FR i hate FF it just doesnt make sence…where is the fun in it driving a front wheel drive is like a 3 sided box its not even a complete driving experience…pontiac with the solsitce is the colsest thing to a FR car for cheap…what happend to nissan,toyota,mazda…used to all make really nice cars in the mid 90’s and late 90’s …i hope FR perfornace cars under 30K do come back very soon…
the answer is simple: FF is cheaper, and it’s safer.
i hear that it costs less to produce FF cars than it does to produce FR cars (due to materials etc.), and also, the majority of the world are people who want to feel safe when driving their cars. if an FR suddenly kicks out on an onramp/offramp and they don’t know what to do because they don’t understand the laws of physics, or just plain panic, they’re gonna spin and crash.
But I totally agree with you, we need more cheap(relatively speaking), NICE LOOKING, well performing RWD cars for us young guys.
i think they make them more expensive so retarded ppl dont buy them
for example…if u ever go on trader u can constantly see ppl claiming 240sx’s to be FWD, or a 6 CYL(even when they are asking like 600) and we all know if it was RB powered it would be hella more expensive…
so obvouisly…ppl are just stupid
but i do agree they need a new car FR car…it sucks…the only thing is the G35 and even those are still like 20-25’gs for an 03 and its 4 years old…
google pontiac solstice or saturn sky and you will find what you are looking for.
The 2007 solstic GXP is a 2.0 turbo with 265 hp and 265flbs or something like that.
Ryse Millen’s new drift cars are solstic’s but he has built the engines to 550hp.
aren’t the sky and solstice more than $30,000 CAD new? they’re bigger than a miata, but only marginally better.
i’d like to see a compact RWD too, like the new altima coupe made in RWD. i don’t know why Japan and the rest of the world get even sub compact rwd’s like cappucino’s.
old corollas were rwd too though…and compact…im tlaking early 80s if im correct. when i first saw it…first thought was FF…but it was FR.
it would cost alot…but the most amazing thing a company could do…is make a low priced car…thats god some style. that comes in HATCHBACK, COUPE, SEDAN, CONVERTABLE. also FR, FF, or AWD. AUTOMATIC or STANDARD…and have it every way changable…so you could basically have everything you wanted.
very true…hense why i still said it would cost alot.
but imo i think they would sell huge. a base car…with what you want. directed for people with low budget and like to be sporty- that ALONE is 70% of the population i would think. i betthey could sell…if i had huge money…i would try it.
When a fwd car understeers it can be corrected by slowing down(braking) transferring weight to the front wheels…Mooost newbs woould brake in this situation.
Where as in our 240’s they will still understeer if you take the corner in neutral too fast or clutch in…and braking will correct the understeer or popping the clutch if youve got balls to kick the back end out and point u in the right…or u should have entered the corner in gear to begin with. But when the rear slides out you gota play with the throttle and properly countersteer…most newbs would completly loose it at this point. That is one main reason why they made FF cars…their just safer for most people who dont know anything behind the physics of how a car handles/reacts.
If the world had access to faster and cheaper RWD cars, there would be better drivers and more divesity of drivers out there. Even though I havent drove it, I like the new solstice and it reminds me of the 240sx in some ways. I think its a vehicle GM deserves credit for. FR and FF manufacturing costs arent any different, it all depends on the type of vehicle being produced. FF is claimed to be safer because people are more used to it and its more practical for superficial daily drivers. Theres bad drivers everywhere; however, the major concentration of horrible drivers from the entire world is in North America. Up until mid 80’s, the cars were pretty straight forward, but in the 80’s manufactures thought it would be a good idea to make cars easier to drive. They began with FWD and than ABS, every new driver from there started depending on these things, essentially phasing out instinctual skills. Most cars today are manufactured towards comfort to the point where there is automatic parallel parking and hydraulic steering supports that soften the steering control for maximum smoothness and zero road feel. Dont blame people for being shitty drivers.
I agree - no real light, quick, low, nice looking & affordable RWD cars really pop into my mind…except maybe the Solstice. I’d buy one, but have you guys heard about GM brake issues & steering wheel vibration at speed (amongst other things) on their BRAND NEW cars?
Anyone for a group buy on machined/replaced rotors every 10,000km’s or less (all 3 new Cobalt owners I know - 3 for 3)?
I still don’t know if i’d try domestic, but if I did, it’d be for something like the Solstice GXP. It is after all a really nice concept, and I wouldn’t mind encouraging the RWD/turbo idea by buying one myself.
I agree that the Solstice does seem to fall into the category of car we’re speaking of, but… I just can’t trust a vehicle that’s branded as American… even if it DOES have european engineering or whatever… (I hear the chassis, among other things, is based off the Opel Speedster, or some other Opel…)
Yeah, although you guys disagree the Solstice/Sky do not meet the price criteria, I would SERIOUSLY look at those if I were in the market for a “NEW” car.
I can’t say I would want a sub $25k RWD car. With the amount of saftey standards they have to meet, along with multiple computer based systems (skid control, ABS, airbags) something would have to give to get the budget down.
Take the solstice, the GXP or whatever I saw at the local dealer, was $36K base, wheres that $11G going to come from? shitty seats, steel wheels, no crome - unpainted plastic bumpers,
what are kids going to drive in 20 years? everyone is going to have FF cars, no kid will be able to offord a FR car,240sx will be to old by then…thats sad i guess drifting will die out becasue no kids will be able to offord FR cars…what do you think about this?
honestly, this topic has been brought too attention just about everywhere… you figure some manafacturer would realize whats going on, and make a change… yet apparently the subcompact market is going crazy (fit/jazz, yaris, aveo etc…) and ppl are buying all of that crap up, and i dont think there is a decent sport model of any of them as of now… but the tuning market is massive for them already… ppl are resorting too just about anything… and face it, most of our demographic (an assumption mind you) would not buy a brand new car, we like fixing and modding with other stock parts from other vehicles…
but when you do look at it, it seems so simple, nissan for example, the 2.5 that powers the altima, also powers, or did power the frontier, meaning that it can be put in rwd form… and they must be able too make some sort of variant of the old 350z chassis work, price it in the 18k+ plus range, and base off of that… seems logical too me… but what do i know, my entire post is irrelevant…
there has too be something out there… there must be something posibble… why cant cars be like my 88 cressida lol?
lots of ppl can get used s2k g35c 350z in the 20-30g range now and the 2006 model remains quite the same in every aspect 
