Exactly right. In fact some programs see the 8150 as an 8130P because it’s an 8130 just with a factory overclock. It benches similar to the i5 but the top end intel chips destroy it but at up to 3 times the price. AMD’s Piledriver 10 core processor will be out in the first quarter 2012 but until Windows 8 arrives the hyperthreading between cores really can’t be fully appreciated. Overall AMD has dropped the ball.