Nah, I think if Trump loses most are not going to cry about it like the Bernie supporters at the DNC. I’m just having so much fun with this election and watching both sides taking things way to seriously. People just need to relax mostly. Those who are uptight about either candidate getting in and “ruining America” don’t know enough about our political system and it’s processes.
Best. Election. Ever.
If there is one major positive to gain from this whole election year, the memes are all fantastic :tup:
Exactly. I enjoy discussing the real implications of this but it’s concerning when people turn into unruly Bills fans over a presidential candidate. The whole point of democracy is to be able to openly discuss opposing views without creating boundaries between those two parties.
Which is why shouting things like ‘libtards’ and blanketing an entire political party affiliation with insults immediately takes meaning away from someone’s argument.
Fixed. And now you know how the other side feels 
You guys should watch the Netflix documentary, Requim for the American Dream.
Yes it certainly goes both ways. I should have included examples from both sides.
Well i know one side was rigged… While the otherside battles like 17 people to win…
Also one side didnt have a scandal everyweek but yet Hes such a terrible canidate.
I’m pro choice…but, someone made a good point.
If women are allowed to abort a child and not be charged with murder…
what would happen if someone went up to a pregnant woman and punched her in the stomach, killing the baby. Would they be charged with murder?
Serious question.
I don’t know, but the Bible sure does:
lol, bible.
So we went to a party the other night and when we arrived I saw many Subarus and BMWs and I told my wife, “This party is going to be filled with Democrats.” Sure enough this guy starts telling me, “I am a big government guy.” He went on and on about how Clinton was the best President evAr and how Obama is a great speaker. Needless to say I bit my tongue for my wife. She was truly shocked at the restraint I showed. 
Edit: Interestingly enough He hates Hillary and is voting for Gary Johnson!!!
You know, that’s a great question. And like most things it will change from state to state. Unfortunately, there actually was a case of this happening last May.
Colorado state law does not recognize a fetus as a person, unless it is capable of surviving for a period of time outside the womb, a prosecutor said then.
Which lines up with the thoughts of pro-choice advocates. It wouldn’t be fair to consider a fetus more human just because it was someone other than the mother who took its life. However, I would think this would take full term abortions off the table, right?
Here’s the thing for me. I would say I am a religious man but when it comes to matters of law and Order and government, I believe strongly in the separation of church and state.
Here’s the biggest issue I see. The Bill of Rights and our constitution was written by men who believed that those rights came from God the Supreme Being. For whatever reason they did not apply that to Black people.
There came a time when that was changed and then interpretation of the Constitution was changed. However with a lot of people in the country who did not believe in a God or any Supreme Being, nobody ever had a conversation about where we derive rights from.
Why do black lives matter? Why do all lives matter? Why do we have laws protecting certain rights ? who says we have those rights?
As it stands our laws are all over the place, on the one hand they protect certain rights , on the other hand they do not protect other rights. Our laws right now are based on the general feelings or perceptions of the population and what is right and what is wrong. You can be on any side of the conversation but you have to admit that that is a terrible notion because that means that we have to consider that for the thousands of years to come, Society will always think that everybody has equal rights, that say the color of your skin should not make a difference in the rights that you have.
I contend that we don’t have any conversation. It’s either I’m pro-life. Or I’m pro-choice. Even though logically based on our laws the choice to abort a fetus would be murder. Generally it is based on whether the fetus feels pain or not. Now to me that is a stupid way of measuring things. It does not answer the question of at what point does life matter. Is it when the egg is fertilized, is it at 20 weeks, full term, 20 seconds after birth? What is the difference between a 20 week old baby and a 40 week old baby?
Why is it somehow inhumane to kill pedophiles rapists and so on, members of society that that have proven to be a detriment to it, and yet at the same time it’s okay to kill that 40 week old baby that could actually do some good in society? Why do these people that so strongly voice and support full term abortion , abortion (aka “womens rights to their own body”) at the same time do everything in their power to protect the lives of these sick assholes who should be executed?
That is not me just saying “oh you shouldn’t be allowed to do that because my God says so”. That is a question that concerns the foundation of rule of law and why we have any law, and what makes a life precious.
Let’s face it we live in a society where if a gorilla gets shot , and if it had a “fetus” , you would not hear the end of it.
If you really are interested in having a discussion, give this a listen, i found it very interesting back when I heard it. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/philosopherszone/sam-moyne-1/7288498
40-20=20
20 weeks
There are an average of 1300 black babies aborted everyday by black women. Do those lives matter? Black people kill black people everyday, do those lives matter? I think maybe a better catch phrase or title or name or whatever should be “it matters who kills black lives”.
Oh, I see! Thanks man 
Something else to think about. As soon as that baby is delivered, then the baby has all the rights. The government wants to hold your hand every step of the way and make sure you do not deviate from the norm.
Think about this, if we get full term abortion, then literally 30 seconds after the woman in question could have aborted the baby, she can be charged with child maltreatment or be put on CPA watch lists for so much as poking the baby the wrong way. That is my beef with all of these debates.
Btw: Did anybody else hear Obama today? I find it disgusting for a President to do that. I cant think of any other president who has tried to influence an election so much. All about preserving his “legacy” I guess
In a modern society with many religions represented, there is no place for a religious conversation in politics, end story.
Gary Johnson secured my vote, I’m over the lesser of two evils and I’m voting for my party this election.
You might have missed his point.
I got it, I wasn’t saying that in response, just about the whole thing.
