Someone please explain to me how extending the unemployment benefit to 99 weeks is going to help anyone? If people get money for 2 years to stay home then what is the incentive to find a new job… any job?
unemployment pays better than most part time jobs. So would you go to work to make less on purpose? Hell no.
How much full time work is out there? 25 million jobs?
6 months tops. They get fired from a job and we (businesses) have to pay, it’s not our fault they suck at keeping employment.
What about being laid off after 20 years? 6 months to find equal pay?
You can tell this board is full of 20 year olds.
Ohhh… I don’t know, since you are required to make 4 points of contact a week, you can loose it if you do not take a job and a lot of other catches to remain on unemployment. Like if you do not take a job that you are offered for 75% of your previous salary you will not receive unemployment.
You are a moron, there is so much wrong with this statement, but I am going to let you try to figure out what is the biggest issues. Hint: you do not pay for unemployment from your taxes, it comes from a companies account. The tax payers only have to pay once that account is drained.
Yes, 6 months. That’s why this country if full of pussies. Use that 20years of experience and get your ass back into the work place. Equal pay? If you’ve got 20 years experience you’ll be into another job making more than minimum wage, I won’t shed a tear if you take a pay cut. I’m tired of people thinking they deserve hand outs from everyone else because boohoo I lost my job. Take your two weeks to sulk and go find another job.
Edit: I’m aware of where unemployment comes from, I meant we as a business. My company has to pay unemployment to pieces of shit that sucked at their job, or were “unavailable” on saturdays when everyone else in the company has to work them.
bingo, people run and cry as soon as life gets difficult. last time i checked I am working harder and harder while making less and less money because every time I turn around someone decides for me how to spend my money.
Since when do you have to pay? Its the employers who have to pay. Get your facts right. And if you get fired you dont collect unemployment. Do some research before you open your mouth.
It took me 10 months, and I hated being unemployed. I went on probably 10 different interviews filled out plenty of applications, submitted my resume here, there and everywhere.
I hear yea. Been on it since March 09, and I actually go to school full time and I’m looking for a job in the mean time. So not all people just sit on their ass and collect a check.
Yeah luckily it came at somewhat of a good time for me… I was in school at the time and it allowed me to focus more on that. It was fun for a couple months being free from doing stuff, but after that you realize you can’t buy stuff you want, not to mention you’re bored outta your mind.
It’s the people who go on disability cause they because they broke a nail. My old man is going on disability but he’s had 3 open heart surgeries and a heart attack and has still gone back to work. It’s true that some people abuse it, but other people have legitimate excuses.
Yeah luckily it came at somewhat of a good time for me… I was in school at the time and it allowed me to focus more on that. It was fun for a couple months being free from doing stuff, but after that you realize you can’t buy stuff you want, not to mention you’re bored outta your mind.
It’s the people who go on disability cause they because they broke a nail. My old man is going on disability but he’s had 3 open heart surgeries and a heart attack and has still gone back to work. It’s true that some people abuse it, but other people have legitimate excuses.
I love the “you don’t pay, companies pay” mentality that the Obama generation has. Guess what? When a company pays YOU pay. You pay with less raises, less profit sharing and less benefits as that company pays for ex employees to sit home for 99 weeks waiting for that pefect job to fall in their lap. YOU pay with higher costs for products and services from that company.
Past 6 months the benefit should start decreasing every week to really give people some incentive to take any job, even at a pay cut.
Ok, by this post it shows you have never been on it, but they will not pay you if you do not take a job for up to 75% of your previous salary. Which means if you get an offer, do not take it, you will be cut off… The incentives are there to take what you can get.
Also I love the trickle down theory, since you know it never works. The owners of that company would not actually pay that money out to their employees since it is coming from an account that already has the money in it. That is why it is called unemployment insurance, the money is in that account previous to that person being fired. Also if they owner of the company had more money available they would use it to line their own pockets and the workers are still in the exact same boat they previously where.
It just like this bullshit recession, salary freezes are everywhere despite the fact many companies are bringing in record size jobs and are completely surpassing projections for the fiscal year, I am curious where that extra money is going, cause I sure as fuck am not seeing it.
You also don’t get UE for getting fired, if there is a guy your company fired for gross incompetence and he is collection UE your company is doing it wrong.
This.
I just went through this after 10 years of loyal service at Ingram Micro. I was laid off 3 days before x-mas no less. They did this underhanded and in a manner to fuck me out of 12 weeks severance pay. The “they” are the HR and exec bean counters. My direct supervisor and the Sr. Director wanted me back and pleaded a case to bring me back. So I clearly wasn’t cut because I “sucked” at doing the job. If I didn’t want to work and make real money again so bad I’d have loved to stick it to them and make them eat all the benefits I was collecting (unemployment and subsidized cobra). Luckily for me I found a job that is awesome for my personality and while the pay is a fair bit lower I just couldn’t sit around at home any longer.
Guys, the bailouts all help bigwigs and the rich. All the go’ment does is to help rich folks to stay on top. You want to begrudge workers that were let go for taking a tiny piece of the pie? I say take ALL you can from the greedy company/government if you’re entitled to it. FWIW I am NOT a fan of welfare because those aren’t “earned” benefits. I HATE socialism as a whole, but if that’s what we have and it’s what the rich abuse, by all means let’s get our piece of the pie. God knows taxes and inflation aren’t in the working mans favor. LOL
I kinda like JayS’s idea of the tail end of unemployment paying less and tapering off as incentive. In my case though (and probably many peoples), I was losing quite a bit every week I was on unemployment compared to what I used to make. I came out of pocket for my cobra health and some of my bills since Obama didn’t pay enough to survive. Thank god I save money and had enough to live off. I didn’t need any motivation myself…perhaps others do. As for the company pays and so will the workers concept…yeah no shit, the company laid off out of greed. Who will the shit roll downhill too??? You feel bad for greedy companies that lay off so they can pocket more profit and make remaining workers work even harder? Most companies today look at workers as a number not a person. And they evaluate how many numbers they really need to get the production they desire out. They have no qualms in recessions letting workers go and making the remaining workers work MUCH harder. I say fuck those companies that take the overly greedy route.
ieatpaint…I didn’t think people that were fired were eligible for unemployment. Are they??? If you can suck and be fired you should get NO benefit. It should only be for those that were laid off or at a company that went under. You suck you pay the price should be how it goes. As for you having no pity…I wonder how you’d feel if you gave xx years and were making $xx and couldn’t find anything remotely comparable. Clearly you’re speaking from an insiders perspective. You’re in the warm house looking out at all the freezing people you presume are lazy bums. The job situation is tricky to maneuver these days…I bet if you had been laid off you would have a different perspective given the current job market.
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2 years is a bit insane though, if ya ask me. There are jobs out there and the bottom line is when you need to eat you’ll either get a job, even if it’s paying shit or you’ll steal. I wonder if all the jobless issues have caused crime to go up at all? Hrmmm.
You do get unemployment for being fired, with the exception of breaking a company rule or policy. The people we fired were for poor performance and availability. We have to pay them unemployment. Someone who’s been with us 15+ years gets fired for being shitty to customers, causing us to lose business and we have to pay unemployment? Someone who was hired to work 5 days a week, one of which being saturdays tells us he can no longer work them because it’s too much stress gets fired and we have to pay unemployment. Sweet.
You can get UE benfits as long as you were fired and in rare cases when you quit. I received them when I quit because I had a legitimate reason : My boss was bouncing payroll checks and I was 3 weeks behind on my pay. Also when you fill out the UE form that is sent to the former employer who has the RIGHT to deny your claim. They do not just hand it out. And you must go to meetings at the UE office and also prove you have been looking for jobs. They also are very helpful in providing you with many many ways to find jobs. In my 6 months i put in roughly 40 resumes, granted I put in some at places where I had no experience because I was looking for a change of pace. Now I was recently fired on Friday because my ex-employer found out I am starting my own shop up. Oh well I’ll suck it up for a month or two and rough it out. Soon enough I’ll be doing my own thing.
With unemployment at 17% it is really a tricky issue, there are alot of decent people out of work. This isn’t just a typical trend we have seen in the past, the entire global economy has shifted in a big way. You may have seen my posts over the years about what I call “cultural change”. This may have been the tipping point to force cultural change. We (America, me included) have been fat dumb and happy for far too long and we are now living the consequences of that lifestyle. The fact is people are going to make less money and the jobs will be less abundant.
Anywho, you know I am very conservative but, I feel an unemployment extension may be necessary at this point because like I said there alot of decent people that have held fulltime jobs for a longtime that simply can not find ANYTHING. These are not people that get fired every couple years and suck the govt tit as a habit. That said, we need to use this time to make adjustments in our lifestyle(culture) for the future.
Out of the trillions our govt spends I am sure we can cut somewhere for the sake of these people.
You know, spread the wealth. 
I never realy payed attention to these types of threads until now. I just recently got layed off from my job and unemployment is only paying me a little over 1/3 of what i used to make. Luckily my wife can pick up some hours but there is NO WAY in hell i could survive on this unemployment. This is incentive enough to find another job. ALot of opinions coming from yuppie teenagers that probably still live at home or probably go to college and have yet to actually enter the workforce.
Im a skilled laborer and i highly doubt i will be able to find a job in this area for even 1/2 of what i used to make.
And i have a family to support. And dont even get me started on health care.:mad: Add another statistic for yet another uninsured family because they cant afford it.
^ I hear ya.
If anyone was under the impression that you make what you did when you were working on unemployment, you are mistaken. What most people make on unemployment is about the same as a $8/hr part time job. So for most people (at least in my case) they make more money on unemployment than they would at most jobs. That being said sometimes there isn’t incentive enough to take a job.