Unexpected stall: WTF is going on? *Update: Videos*

Woah, I know of two reasons that ive had that happen, 1 with the KA the sparkplug wire was broken but it wasnt visible, car was running on 3 cylinders.

2nd time. when i first installed the SR, turned her over he would barely idle it was stumbly and then just died UNLESS i pressed the throttle and it seemed to go smooth. The reason, one of the injectors was not sealing properly into the intake manifold. So look at your injectors, look at the rubber seals into the manifold, look for cracks, unplug each injector 1 at a time and see if that changes anything. Look for gas stains on the manifold, and also smell for gas.

Any precautions to take befrore removing injector from rail?

I can smell gas but thats because I took the AIV out and the fuel vapour line is dangling in the engine bay (probablly not a good idea in case of spark) :noes:

Whats the reason for that vacuum reading at the FPR?

if you havent taken out your injectors before i highly doubt a problem like that would happen out of nowhere.

did you check spark on all 4 cylinders

Checked the worst plug and it created a spark (orange spark). So they
seem ok :dunno:

I’m holding off on putting the new plugs because I highly doubt they are
at fault.

Damn this sucks.

yeah but injectors can clog up.

Gonad i meant unplug the wiring plug from each injector 1 at a time, if the idle doesnt change then you found your problem.

If you do remove the injectors themselves you need to depressurize the system.

I unplugged each injector harness as the motor was idling.

As I did one by one the idle changed and obviusly it was noticable what
was happening.

I’m going to look into the EGR as it could be stuck open.

FYI I haven’t used any injector cleaner or any additive in my engine as
long as I have owned it.

watch the fuel pressure as it hesitates and dies, if it is 44psi the whole tiem you can rule out the fuel pump. Dont just check it while the cars running, obviously its fine then.

Check your TPS as well if it has trouble with tip in then the TPS is to blame most of the time, it should be 0.45v at idle and about 4v at wot

remember its an intermittant problem that means whatever is fucking up is only fucking up sometimes, these are the hardest problems to find!

Ok, here’s a weird one.

I disconnected the EGR and the BPT valve.

Car was idling and running but a couple times it choked and a couple
times it died (not as often as before). This was over a course of maybe a
couple hours.

As I was checking the timing, here’s what I found:

#1 cylinder wire - erratic pulse from timing gun
#2-#4, coil - Smooth consistent pulse

So I switched the plug wires #1 and #2 (so the original wire from cylinder
#1 is now on the #2 cylinder). And here’s what I found:

#1 cylinder wire - erratic pulse from timing gun
#2-#4, coil - Smooth consistent pulse

So this leads me to believe that perhaps it’s not the plug wire.

So I switched everything back to original form and bumped my timing up
to about 20 advanced. Car seeemd to run smoother and idle fine. But
I noticed it was running a bit warm (220-230F) - I have no clutch or e. fan
running btw so it’s normal to overheat.

I drove it around the block a few times to let it cool down. It was now at
180F and I slowed down and waited in neutral for a few sec. and the car
just shut off. :shock:

Before I turned in for the night, I checked the tming once more. The wires
were fairly consistent now and #1 cyl wasn’t as erratic as before. Also I
noticed #1 and #4 were the only cylinders where you can see the timing ticks
with the light; #2 and #3 didn’t show the ticks with the timing light.

Video #1
Light hooked to #1 cylinder wire. You can obviousl ysee the erratic pulse

http://240sx.cubicdesign.com/videos/2005/timing/cyl1.avi

Video #2
Light hooked to #2 cylinder wire - might be hard to tell but it was pretty
smooth pulses

http://240sx.cubicdesign.com/videos/2005/timing/cyl2.avi

I can probablly contribute my erratic timing light pulses on #1 due
to placing the timing light probe too close to the distrib.

So maybe it was picking up signals from the other plug wires.

I’ll check some more and move the wire away/more independently.

This is the correct link for cylinder 1
http://240sx.cubicdesign.com/videos/2005/timing/cyl1.avi

This is the correct link for cylinder 2
http://240sx.cubicdesign.com/videos/2005/timing/cyl2.avi

(both of your links pointed to cylinder 1 … confusing :P)

Did you ever sort this out

im having similar probs

From my list of readings on the topic, Im voting for your maf sensor being pooched. I also have a clutch fan if you want it.

I need to get my grubby mitts on someone elses MAF sensor to see if mine is in fact shot. YOu can also take the purge line off the charcoal canister, plug it, and test drive it like that to see if it works- and if it does then the problem could be a vapor line. The other thing was removing the vacum line from the FPR and plugging it to see what happened.

Do you get a funny power loss as you drive along too…like a hiccup almost… cause I do now and then. And its identical to the time when the intake pipe slipped outof the TB and thus caused the MAF to get an improper signal cause not enough air was going through it, i mean its exactly the same, which is why i think its your MAF, and mine.

If MAF was faulty, when it is stumbling, I wouldn’t be able to rev past 2500.

When it’s hesitating at low RPMs I can rev past 2500 (at which point it
smooths out).

I’ve sort of ruled out MAF for now but you never know.

All my AIV and carbon canister stuff is gone and eveything plugged up.

Mind you I have been driving some 2000KMs with this stuff gone before
this just happend.

double check but i think if the maf is giving NO signal (ie missing or unplugged) it wont rev over 2500 rpm but if its out of whack it will…

cause if its not the maf then i dont have a clue and i will sell my car and get a pickup truck from the 70’s where you can fix problems like this with a flathead screwdriver

:werd:

Carb > EFI

Someone nearby wanna lend me their MAF :fingersx:

Come pick mine up my cars going no where soon…

that, and you can run on a map sensor now

It’s not the MAF; Jantos came with his and no dice.

We think it’s the CAS/Distributor.

It’s not the MAF; Jantos came with his and no dice.

We think it’s the CAS/Distributor.[/quote]

makes sense considering your ECU was telling you that.

It’s not the MAF; Jantos came with his and no dice.

We think it’s the CAS/Distributor.[/quote]

makes sense considering your ECU was telling you that.[/quote]

lol

agreed

jantos bring a dizzy and get on that shit

Man this is nuts. Dude on KA-T is telling me it’s seriously related to my
fuel system and my car running overly rich.

Time for SR? :dunno: