:word: Car salesmen are salesmen, not car guys. It doesn’t matter to them if it’s cars or fruit, they just sell. There are a lot of shady ones, but I’m sure there are decent ones as well. I had a good experience buying my Jetta from Jerry Gradl Motors. :gotme: Good car, good price, not too much BS’ing, was more than happy to replace the broken idler pulley I came back with 2 weeks later.