This, coming from a dude who tag teams strippers…thanks for proving my point
ahh, i can respect that.
:lol:
1.) No one got hurt
2.) Everyone was consenting, and of age
3.) She was paid an excellent hourly rate for her career of choice. Why she chose that career is something else but :gotme:
Do whatever you want to do, as long as it doesn’t harm others or yourself. Harm principle.
Religious conversations are pointless. Both atheists and creationists spew bullshit about who is right but in the end no one knows shit. Everyone has some sort of opinion…but to say you believe that opinion to extent of it being fact is like saying you are God yourself.
All I know is that I don’t know nothing…and I’m ok with that. I don’t understand the humans need to have an explanation of their existence.
meh, just because nobody got hurt doesn’t make it the right thing to do…
I am sure that her being a stripper and/or basically a hooker has caused emotional distress to some person in her life. I would like you to repeat your above list to her mother. Then we’ll see if anyone was harmed. You feeding that with cash is not exactly my definition or moral.
You are free to do what you want, but you preaching morals is laughable.
None of this is to say that I have always done the moral/right thing, but in most cases I do. As I’ve gotten older, I am definitely tending to be more and more moral.
Who’s to judge what version of moral is right?
Generalize much? Just as many kids that grow up in ultra religious households that end up doing drugs, having sex in their parents cars etc as kids who don’t.
That is like saying people that eat apples are going to grow up to be homeless. Wait, what?
The presence or absence of religion matters very little in two adult’s ability to raise children, which is what is going to set them up with their behaviors as they grow up. Is religion a good way to get a lot of those messages across? Sure. Is it the only way? No. Is an overdose of religion just as likely to cause “bad” behavior in children? You better believe it. To think otherwise is just covering your eyes and believing like you want, like parents that think their kids are always angels.
what is all comes down to is the simple fact that faith is not bound or limited by logic.
Some might tell you to drink cool-aid and wait for the spaceship, other’s that it’s wrong to steal.
Logic always requires you to prove within some bounds what you want others to agree with.
you’re right. I don’t think religion is the end all be all, by any means. I simply think it is a good way to teach morals. Like you said, it’s a good way to get the point across. That is the reason why I support the existance of religion.
For the record, I think ultra-religious people are silly. But the majority of ultra-reilgious kids grow up to be ultra-religious parents. If they didn’t, there would not be any ultra-religious people left. I don’t really care about that though.
All I care about is that families have a way to instill morals into their children and teach them right and wrong. I still think that religion/sunday school is a great way to do that.
Faith is not the best way to teach good morals, it’s simply the easiest way to embed any moral.
So it’s high on the effective scale, irreverent on the quality of lesson being taught. If something is a good moral then you don’t need faith, if it’s bad then it’s very helpful because it circumvents the need for logic.
Think about it it.
Faith says “somebody upstairs who is never wrong said do this”
Logic says “do this because it makes sense <insert logic>”
There is nothing that ever said anywhere that god would not allow bad things to happen. This planet is satans kingdom and making things easy is not gods job. We receive our free will from our creator. Part of that free will is not believing in him. God is not evil, he created a world of creatures with free will. This means that evil can take place. William lane craig explains it more efficiently. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=51880005
Ricky Gervais explains it better (and this is not a comedy clip)
Two words.
free will
While i was raised a roman catholic, Im not one of those “ram it down your throats” people. Hell I havent been too mass in years. But i do live by the governing principles of morality that was the foundation of my beliefs.
Is it really that foolish too believe that there is a higher power and that there is life after death?
I guess sooner or later well all find out.
And how do you conclude what is morally right or wrong? Religious teachings? The Law of the land you reside? The culture you were raised with? Everyone’s perception of morality is different and is always changing. And in the end its not about what is right or wrong…but what is acceptable in the civilization you are a part of. And in the USA…with its Viagara, and its Pam Anderson’s, and its sex tapes and scandals, and its half naked girl beer ad’s ect…a sexual escapade with a couple strippers is definitely morally acceptable.
Do we receive free will to be swallowed up by an earthquake?
You’ve heard of the “invisible hand” in economics?
well this is the invisible hand of “faith” (according to some Religious leaders) It’s due to the deal Haiti made with the devil, or something like that.
This brings us full circle to the first post.
Go stand in front of a church in South Carolina and tell them that… Better yet, go tell that to your Grandmother.
The only reason you think that is the truth, is because that is what you practice. The same way people who smoke weed think that everyone in the world also smokes weed and that it’s awesome and socially acceptable.
I was waiting for the “free will” argument. This is the biggest farce of Christianity. God is omnipotent meaning he is all…sees all…knows all…ect. So if God knew the choices you were going to make before he even created you then how exactly is your will “free?”
Go stand in front of a church in South Carolina, or many grandparents, and tell them that racism is wrong. You’ll get the same response. Ironically, the two seem to be correlated.
Everybody knows when they are being morally proper or improper. Many people will reason their way out of what is immoral and find a way to justify it, but deep down you know when your actions are immoral.
If everybody grasped the basic concepts of any religion, and abided by these morals, i’m willing to bet the world would be a much better place.
what’s wrong with living your life following beliefs?
If I live a moral, religion-based life, following the basic 10 commandments according to the bible and find out i am wrong when i die and “discover” no eternal life…what have I lost? In my opinion, nothing… If you live a life atheist or immoral life and find out you were wrong when you die…then you have lost everything.
just saying.
The problem with arguing religion, you won’t know for sure until you die.
On topic:
a christian view of “God vs.Tragedy” Watch this: