Something everyone has forgotten so far.
Saturn SC
1.9L SOHC with 100HP
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1.9L DOHC with 124HP
I made the mistake back in the day to modifying my SC2, and I learned a valuable lesson. These cars aren’t meant to go fast.
^^ i don’t think anyone thought that car was supposed to be a performance car.
saturn did have an aftermarket for them, i still remember checking out the ones at the malls with the intake/exhaust/body kit around christmas
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am i the only one that actually likes the way Prowlers look?
It wasn’t a performance car just like your 130hp 1995 Dodge Neon ACR isn’t lol
Definitely know someone that thought these were bad ass and decide to dump money into it. I will definitely agree some thought it was a performance machine. We all know better.
Prowlers do look sweet. Don’t know how they perform, don’t care how they do… its unique which sets it on its own.
There was a supercharged one locally that went 12s or maybe 13s I forget?
We had a couple around here with spray and or bolt ons also.
Its back when SPS performance and other Saturn shops were around 2000-2001ish?
Its relative though this was back when the first fast and furious came out Cougarspeed was rocking a Maxima with a big shot of nitrous, Oynx had a NA 300zx, and MrSmith was beating all kinds of people with a bolt on GSR.
Those Saturns suffered from epic fail excessive wheel spin/wheel hop made the diff come apart and shoot the pin holding it together into the car :tup:
This is it.
"Federal emissions requirements of the 1970s took a big neutering knife to American muscle cars, and no car bled more than the Corvette. The worst of it came in California where stricter state regulationss required that the barely adequate 350 cu.-in. smallblock in the 1980 Corvette be replaced with a wholly inadequate 305 V8, putting out 180 hp of pure shame.
On top of that, the “California” Corvette sucked its pitiful rivulet of horsepower through the straw of a torque-sapping three-speed automatic transmission.
1980 was not a good year for Corvette buyers living in California. They were restricted to one engine choice, a 305 cu in. motor that was common to the other Chevrolet models that year. There was also only one available transmission - an automatic - no four speeds allowed. This was the result of the state’s tougher emissions regulations. Automatic transmission equipped cars are easier to pass emissions certification since pushing in the clutch on a manual transmission causes a blip in the pollution output. This is not a problem with smooth shifting automatic transmissions which are equipped with torque convertors instead of clutches.
“The 305 cu. in. motor that California buyers were stuck with was rated at 180 hp, 10 hp less than the 350 cu. in. motor available in the other 49 states. A $50.00 credit was some consolation, but Corvettes sold to California residents came with the California emissions certification option; RPO YF5 for $250.00.”
180HP, 14 MPG.
Plus, the 1980 Corvette had the worst build-quality of nearly any car. There’s plenty of stories of delaminating hoods, rusting subframes, peeling paint, and misfiring engines - all on dealer lots.
The '75 base Corvettes only had 165 horse. The C3 Vettes past 1974 were about as shitty as shitty gets.
you’ve obviously never met Saturn Guy.
Not sure how the EP3 makes the list and the TSX, base RSX, EM1 Si, and 9th gen Si fail to make the list…they suck only slightly better than the EP3 Si. Add a little power (or just add a crappy non-3 lobe Vtec k24a1) to the EP3 and it’s exactly the same as a stock RSX Type S except a bit quicker with their 4.7 final drive versus the craptasric 4.3 final drive in the type s tranny. Either way the EP3 and DC5 are based on a minivan suspension and design which is why they have only 1 degree of caster from the factory and a horribly designed tie rod system compared the 8th gen Civics Si.
First, SOHC ACR has 136 HP, DOHC 150
Second, Neon ACR’s and R/T’s were faster than 5.0 Stangs from the 80’s and 90’s, but everyone already knows every V8 motor made in those two decades sucked ass anyways :bloated:
So was the ACR a performance car? No, def not, but neither were a lot of the “performance” cars of that era.
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Actually I take that back about the ACR, those cars could handle like clouds, every stang was like driving the titanic.
I’ve seen Fieros, Saturn SCs, and Neon ACRs put on a performance more than a lot of people that have posted in this thread. :lol:
It’s actually quite amusing at how Neons were viewed as fast. They’re a fine FWD car, but they weren’t even close to the best car in their autocross class. Dodge had a very, very favorable contingency program (it was better than any other before or since, but I don’t remember the details). All the good drivers for that type of car participated (pretty much look up the results for the 1995 solo II nationals, pick out the top 5-10) so everyone else who liked that type of car assumed it to be the car for the class and got one. Other cars were faster and even people who won prizes in the program admit it, but since all of their real competition was driving the same car the competitive field was level and no one really cared.
lol.
SDA- Mike and Lisa’s SC Saturn was running 12.2’s in 2006-ish. They were around since early 2000’s though.
:tup: I have a vid of of Mike’s red sc2 running 12’s on spray back in 2001-2002, as well as Andy’s em1 si running 12’s against a viper
It didn’t run 12’s on spray.
Saturn power!
Good ole days like leaving work while still punched in to go race your dumb ass then hurry back, lol.
You may be right, it might if been 13’s I’ll try and find the vid
I’ve watched several Fox-body 5.0’s run 9.1’s-9.2 at Lancaster 100% bone stock way back in '91 and '92. Most ran 9.5-9.6 (5-speeds) and the auto’s ran 10.1+. The guys that ran 9.1’s were excellent drivers and they were in LX 5.0’s. Sorry but a 150hp Neon isn’t going to run a 9.1. The Eagle Talon’s of that era ran high 9’s and had more power than your ACR, so no idea how you come up with your statement.
My 150hp Saturn back in 08 ran a 9.3 then 8.4 on a 75 shot :gotme: