anyone watch the news tonight?

huge thing on street racing, what a joke.

they showed some civics getting crushed by a front end loader infront of a bunch of people…

then it showed a mpp saying that people with modified cars should look for a new hobby…

in regaurds to this…i was at a local hot rod meet this past tuesday, i got into quite the discussion with some of the older fella’s.

They can remember being pulled over and harrased if there plate was dirty. This is nothing new, roll with the punches, keep under the radar and have fun.

This is really ridiculous, “find another hobby”… :roll:

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this whole street racing thing is getting WAY out of hand. People with modified cars better look for a new hobby? fuck that. Modifying cars is happening right across the board, whether it be a mini-van, a 240 or some old muscle car. I can’t beleive the amount of bullshit that is going on. The local/provincial/federal levels of government really need to take a step back for a second and re-evaluate this whole thing. We have cops from different places all over Ontario, and Canada disagreeing, and even showing their accident statistics on how often “street racing” has hurt/killed 1 or more persons.

I personally think something needs to be addressed about the amount of idiots out there try to “drift” or “race” on city streets, that kind of stuff should not be conducted in that fashion. At one time or another, everyone has in some form have pulled up beside someone and gunned it once the light has turned green, I’ll admit it, I’ve done it, however, when I was doing that, I was only 17/18/19 years old. Now almost 10 years later, I can look back and realize that I’m very lucky that nothing bad ever came from it, not even a speeding ticket. There are too many kids out there that are still wet behind the ears from getting their graduated G2 license, take their parent’s car and go out to joyride.

I also agree with Lucky’s post, I have spoke with older guys that have big horsepowered muscle cars about this whole street racing issue. We through around ideas and suggestions on what all this is turning into, but it really isn’t anything new, it’s always been happening, and it will continue to happen as long as people continue getting into accidents “street racing” or driving like morons. However, the whole issue about modifying cars and whatnot, I understand the reasoning behind not letting certain things pass as “safe for street use”, but when people continue being hassled, fined, having cars impounded for improper muffler, or aftermarket rims, that is just getting ridiculous. Whether you can afford to buy stock hi-powered car, or drop a couple hundred/thousand into a 240 or civic, as long as the car passes safety and e-testing, I dont see what the difference is. We all know, whether you are driving like an idiot or not, a modified car will get hassled first, before any higher class expensive car will, whether or not one driver is younger or older, or even the same age driving either car.

Telling people to find a new hobby, and i’m sure the statement was directed towards import enthusiasts, is a bit extreme and quite ignorant.

The only thing I like about living in the Windsor area is how laid back the cops are with respect to modified vehicles, especialy imports. The don’t go around looking to pull people over for the hell of it like they do in bigger cities.

I have to agree with you as well. Where I am, the cops are fairly good for the most part, but when I’m out in my 240 (that has no exterior mods other than the spoiler) I get pulled over frequently, and REALLY randomly. Especially in the downtown core, cops are usually always hanging around, so I never drive over the limit in that area, but always seen to be pulled over.

Man, I’m sick of the rhetoric from these city councilers/politicians. What a bloody joke, this whole issue is ridiculous. No, I don’t support street racing at all, but if the powers that be really wanted to stop it, or at least curtail it somewhat, they could. But, let’s face it, they won’t. And why is that…yes, you guessed it, money!!! If the people in political office weren’t such greasy bastards, they wouldn’t talk out of both sides of their mouths at once. The easy solution would be…build a drag strip in/near Toronto. Wow, what a concept, eh? But this isn’t going to happen, and why, yes as I said before, money! It will be a cold day in hell before the city of Toronto or province of Ontario uses some of their precious land to build a dragstrip for some punk kids, when they could sell it to a developer for millions, and then make millions more per year on taxes from the houses/condos/apartments/malls/businesses they build on those lands. Toronto is a world class city?? Yeah, right . The closest drag strip that I know of is “Toronto” Motorsports Park in Cayuga, a nice couple hour drive from downtown T.O. Pathetic.

OH NOES 34 PEOPLE IN 7 YEARS!?!

how many people dies of lung cancer today?

how many people go hit by a drunk driver this week?

how about herione over doses?

how many human hearts could be bought the billions the government lost in gun control?

its propoganda…

FORGET THAT CANADA HAS HIGH OIL PRICES DESPITE BEING THE 2ND LARGEST EXPORTER OF OIL TO THE US ON EARTH

FORGET THAT CAMPAIGN PROMISES ARE BROKEN

FORGET THAT GUN CONTROL NEVER HAPPENED AND THAT WE LOST $1 BILLION OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS FOR NOTHING

FORGET THAT ONTARIO INSURANCE IS THE HIGHEST ON THE CONTINENT

FORGET POVERTY, UNEMPLOYMENT, PROSTITUTION, KIDDIE PORN, MURDERS, RAPE, DRUGS, CORRUPT COPS AND CORRUPT POLITICIANS

FORGET WHAT THE DEFLATING US DOLLAR MEANS FOR THE WORLD ECONOMY

FORGET THE WAR

FORGET IT ALL MY FELLOW CANADIAN CITIZENS… BECAUSE KIDS ARE RACING ON THE STREETS SOMETIMES, AND EVERY 75 DAYS SOMEONE DIES BECAUSE OF IT.

mind you the racing is not necessarily modified cars, but forget it, dont you hate those kids wiht loud exhuast? yeah me too, lets get em.

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ps… i know CSIS can see this and call me a terrorist now… but too bad, take my car away and i’ll register in the US and drive another one…then in MTL, then AB, etc. etc.

Preach on Bing!

You know I coulda sworn that gang violence has killed more people this year than street racing has in the last 10.

more people die in steel plants every year than street racing has killed in 20…

and whats this bullshit with driving is a priviledge?

you pay taxes to maintain the roads, you get to use them.

its the same bullshit as property taxes… oh well the Fed GOV owns the land and leases it to you on a perpetual 99 year lease (legally)

fukk that, who gave the land to the GOV?

no one

buncha unaccountable hypocrits picking on easy targets.

bing that was a great post, its so true. We’re the black sheep for this government to deflect the public’s hatred on. WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

I’ll run for office, we’ll be the Tuner Party lol

you wanna know what the real deal is Ty?

after i rape the CMA exams and get a handle on the next step of the program i am going to write my LSAT’s…

i’m seriously going to get into politics and pick up french in another decade or so once i’ve got the family and professional $hit outta the way, and i’ll be kicking some born-into-politics-faggot ass all the way

Amen preach it brother

Generally I don’t let this type of thing bother me, the bill hasn’t even passed yet, and normally it wouldn’t. However, with the recent events, and the media coverage, this issue has an enormous amount of push behind it, and that worries me.

MR200 was right in the fact that not only does it have push, but I can’t see your typical MP from any side arguing against it. That’s a problem. I hope for the auto enthusiasts sake there are some auto enthusiasts in parliment or this won’t have any resistance.

At this point the discussion about a vehicle being modified is ground enough for seizure of a vehicle without conviction bothers me even more, because that gives police infinitely more power to seize a car, with zero grounds to do so, even if your car meets all EPA and HTA laws and specs.

In essence, this is martial law for car guys.

The only resistance I can see, and it could be a big one, is simply that this is no difference then predjudice against a minority group. Cop pulls over a black person and arrests them or searchs their car based on stereotypes and predjudice, he gets fired.

A cop pulls over a car enthusiast and seizes the vehicle based on the notion that his or her car is modified with the intention to street race, he gets a medal.

Anyone else see the parallels?

It’s going to be about 10 times worse for 240 owners too, because right now, your under the searchlight with this new movie. So I suggest you stay as low key as possible.

Either way, there is only so much you can do as a group, vote against the conservatives next time around, but for now, this fate lies in the hands of some crusty bitter seniors, who make a living lieing to the public.

Makes you feel good doesn’t it?

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only post of Bob’s i cna agree with this year, and agree i do

I’m with bing on this all the way.

I mean lets not find an alternative solution like closing up back roads for LEGAL street racing or find an alernative solution, lets just make something that is considered reckless driving or street racing the same thing as beating up a cop. :roll:

This is just gettin out of hand like WTF!!! :evil:

the most disturbing thing is when they crushed the cars, that could be one of ours if we get pulled over and charged with…whatever…street racing. even they were crx and a civic, still…it was once a kids “hobby” car. cops are getting out of hand…